Is artificial toning used to cover damage on key dates?
goldrealmoney79
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Maybe its just me but whenever I see blatant AT on a key date especially higher grades I assume its to cover a cleaning or other pmd. Am i mistaken? For example this coin why AT such a high grade 1889 CC, why else would you do it?
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A coin might be artificially toned in order to hide cleaning, marks/flaws, tooling, etc. and/or to try to add value in the form of attractiveness/beauty.
Edited to add: Common dates are by no means, immune from such activity.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
He actually says that the coin has been cleaned in his description
That sounds like a good, very unusual seller!
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Check out his other listings. On the first page alone there are at least a dozen AT Morgan Dollars that have other underlying problems. While the photos are clearly oversaturated/juiced through the roof, there is no way these colors are wholesome. I think it is likely he doctors them since there are so many obviously ATed coin from the same seller.
Here are a few examples:
** CAUTION MAY CAUSE SEIZURES IN PEOPLE WITH EPILEPSY **
I’m sorry I saw that. My head and eyes hurt. And he doesn’t sound like a good seller, anymore.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Me too.
It appears to be the end product from an Easter egg coloring kit.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Many people collect AT’d coins. You need to AT the keys to get a complete set.
A menagerie of U.S. Mint medals
Somebody might do that.🤔
A set of true "monsters" to be sure
In these examples the AT magnifies the damage present on the underlying coins. They look like the coin doctors practice coins that messed up.
Mr_Spud
I can’t imagine that sulfur did that, although it does look like Hell.
I can’t either. I was joking about Easter egg dye (from a kit), not sulfur from eggs.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Those coins lend new dimensions to the word ugly..... Actually hideous and nasty. Cheers, RickO
The vast majority of this eBay seller's coins are blast white Morgans. I think that the buyer got a really good deal on a 89-CC for $1,316.00. Probably can dip it to get rid of the color and sell it for twice as much.
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Wouldn't it depend on what's hiding under the toning?
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You have to look at it as a Christmas gift. Might be a details coin but after you unwrap it ????????
I have been in Numismatics for almost 60 years. Those are the ugliest coins that I have ever seen.
The coins above are simply culls IMO that appear (attempted) enhanced by coin doc.
The more money the coin doc can make more likely AT. Be especially careful on big ticket items.
In reality toners are tarnished (will get worse with time) material many really ugly in my view. Bc of the popularity of that area sadly many coin doctors mess w them.
Focus on unblemished material that is brilliant, PQ with super cartwheel luster.
Agree 100% with this.
More like the Halloween special: Trick or treat?
cameonut, please add a warning about charred retinas to the above photo post!
Allow me to list all the problems with this seller:
Terrible ebay sales history of selling cleaned coins along with other problems and misdeeds
He does state it was cleaned, but it is squeezed into his description and it is only stated deep inside his listing, it can easily be missed
It appears it isn't really sold, but sold to a bidder with zero bids and just created, same goes for the underbidder
All his investors is similarly AT and blatantly AT like a colorized coin
I would agree he is selling psychedelic silver culls attempting to receive astronomical prices
Makes th hobby look terrible
@trueblood really great detective work. I didnt notice all that
@Cameonut I had a good laugh at the epilepsy warning. But at the same time felt sad about these fried coins and unfortunate ppl who buy them.
You have me confused with Cameonut2011 who copied my user name in 2011.
I would never make the comment he did on a public forum. Having epilepsy is nothing to joke about.
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The joke wasn't directed at the infirm. It was directed at the horrendous and psychedelic colors on the obviously ATed botch jobs I posted. I thought that was obvious. I would never make fun of someone's medical issues. I'm not that callous.
Hell may have more truer colors.
Maybe, but I am not in a hurry to find out.