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Is the pitting on this coin PMD or due to counterfeit?

This worn coin has pitting heavily concentrated in the same areas on the observe and reverse. I know sometimes it can be PMD but I was hoping for more experienced eyes to give some input.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1890-CC-Silver-Carson-City-Morgan-Dollar/284120683120?hash=item4226e99270:g:LxAAAOSwAjVf3lta

What do yall think?

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  • goldengolden Posts: 8,811 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fake.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD and ugly to boot. :s

    Looks like it is genuine and might be a Vam 5. ;)

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 44,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2020 5:31AM

    Severely environmentally damaged but real. Possible metal detector find.

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm getting nauseous! Peace Roy

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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WAY fake. Not even close.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks bogus to me and fugly

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Genuine, but significantly degraded.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a cast fake.... Cheers, RickO

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,012 ✭✭✭✭✭

    4 votes for fake, 3 for gen. damaged, 1 needs vomit bucket. Without larger images I can't say I'm 100%sure it's fake, maybe about 90%. Looking at the pits, especially on the rev, I see some of them have a tiny blob of metal in the center, which for me is a telltale sign of a transfer die forgery from a poorly made die. My 10% uncertainty is because the photos aren't quite big enough for me to be totally sure. I don't know the Morgan series well enough to judge the MM or other features that might be unique to this issue.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 44,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2020 5:53AM

    What is the weight of this coin? Perhaps the seller can weigh it for you. If it's a poorly made counterfeit, the weight is probably off.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2020 6:44AM

    I don't like the CC
    I think I would lean toward fake.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mint mark for Vam 5 is a CC/CC.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2020 9:59AM

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    Mint mark for Vam 5 is a CC/CC.

    Yes ... I believe you're right. VAM 5 CC/CC

  • Wow split crowd on thsi one. I guess I wasnt the only one confused.

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