High grade JACKPOT?

joeykoins · December 16, 2020 2:05PM

Hi guy's, I was going through the PCGS Price Guide and I was focusing on the Statehood Quarter's. The first state, Delaware. The Delaware Philadelphia. In top grades, 68 and 69. BIG MOOLA! Somebody actually sent their's in. Lol. To my surprise, in a ms 68, $1200. The ms 69, forget it. Now I realize the PCGS Price Guide is just that, a guide. They have the ms 69 listed for $14,000! So, I decided to check a roll out, just to see if I can find anything close. I did not. Probably pretty scarce to find in a high grade such as what they have listed? However, I did come across 3 interesting ones. She only charged me $1. Check them out. Does anyone notice anything?

1Bufffan · December 16, 2020 2:12PM

Spitting Horse on the top one?

ambro51 · December 16, 2020 2:13PM

The horse it taking a dump on the top left coin.

Kurisu · December 16, 2020 2:13PM

Looks like maybe yer spittin' horse there :-)

joeykoins · December 16, 2020 2:17PM

@1Bufffan said:
Spitting Horse on the top one?

Yes! But you are 1/3 correct. Lol.
Yes, all three are the "spitting horse ".

LeeBone · December 16, 2020 2:19PM

Not sure but maybe I should check the couple of rolls of these I got when they came out. Hmmm...

Batman23 · December 16, 2020 2:20PM

Here I thought you were on to the fact that there was some dude on top of that poor horse! But instead you are complaining that the Horse is spitting mad!

Coinscratch · December 16, 2020 2:23PM

The three Amigos are gonna party like it's 1999?

joeykoins · December 16, 2020 2:28PM

@CoinscratchFever said:
The three Amigos are gonna party like it's 1999?

Lol. "Badges? We don't have to show you our stinking badges!"

291fifth · December 16, 2020 2:55PM

All I see is 75 cents.

Walkerguy21D · December 16, 2020 2:55PM

$14k for an ms69?

I think I’ll be content with a raw 65 for a quarter..... without high mag, most people wouldn’t notice the difference.

golden · December 16, 2020 6:56PM

Does anyone know what kind of horse that is? .......................................................................................It is a quarter horse.

ChrisH821 · December 16, 2020 8:29PM

There has to be thousands upon thousands of rolls of these out there that were saved.
Lower right looks to be the best condition of the three.

johnny9434 · December 17, 2020 6:55AM

@ambro51 said:
The horse it taking a dump on the top left coin.

I think the Kentucky horse is dewing the same thing

jdimmick · December 17, 2020 7:20AM

Those quarters you posted would be lucky to get 65

ricko · December 17, 2020 7:50AM

Did not realize the SHQ's have such value in high grades.... Cheers, RickO

ChrisH821 · December 17, 2020 7:56AM

@ricko said:
Did not realize the SHQ's have such value in high grades.... Cheers, RickO

A lot of moderns do, some can be pretty tough to find in high grades. IMO It's only going to be a matter of time before hundreds of MS68-69 state quarters come out of the woodwork and dilute the pops. So many people saved these things.

ricko · December 17, 2020 7:57AM

@ChrisH821... Good point, a lot of rolls were purchased and put away. Jackpot prices will bring them out. Cheers, RickO

yosclimber · December 17, 2020 8:01AM

@joeykoins said:
Hi guy's, I was going through the PCGS Price Guide and I was focusing on the Statehood Quarter's. The first state, Delaware. The Delaware Philadelphia. In top grades, 68 and 69. BIG MOOLA! Somebody actually sent their's in. Lol. To my surprise, in a ms 68, $1200. The ms 69, forget it. Now I realize the PCGS Price Guide is just that, a guide. They have the ms 69 listed for $14,000!

An MS-68 sold for $960 in Dec-2018, so $1200 is not completely invented.
Only 1 MS-69 had been graded at that time, and it has not appeared at auction, apparently.
https://www.pcgs.com/auctionprices/details/1999-p-delaware-ms/5944

joeykoins · December 17, 2020 9:15AM

@ricko said:
Did not realize the SHQ's have such value in high grades.... Cheers, RickO

Yes, RickO, I am aware of this market. Which, explains the fact I have a few moderns in my inventory graded by our host. Hoping and chasing those high grades. Very risky in the pocketbook trying to reach those levels. I have a few that just missed by one grade or two for the BIG value! Here are a couple.
My 2000d Jefferson. MS 66 FS. Two grades higher would have brought $300

My 1974d Roosevelt MS 66 No FB.
Two grades higher would have brought $750. Even without FB

My 1965p Washington MS 66. One grade higher. $425

Here's one more modern
My 1968s PF.66 DDR Quarter / not Cameo
ONE grade higher would of not only brought $275 but would have placed my coin in the highest grade for that variety.

Batman23 · December 17, 2020 9:31AM

I looked through a few rolls of the Alaska quarter when they were released. I would say that the majority would grade 63-65. I sent the two best ones in for grading and they came back as 66 and 67. I thought I had a chance at the lofty 68 grade but no luck that day. This was before the invention of the + grade.

joeykoins · December 17, 2020 10:15AM

@Batman23 said:
I looked through a few rolls of the Alaska quarter when they were released. I would say that the majority would grade 63-65. I sent the two best ones in for grading and they came back as 66 and 67. I thought I had a chance at the lofty 68 grade but no luck that day. This was before the invention of the + grade.

You didn't specify whether it's a p or d? I see if it was the Denver, in a 68, would have brought you $650. If it was a p Mint, it would have brought you all alone in the highest grade for the Philadelphia. Nice try.

Batman23 · December 17, 2020 10:19AM

@joeykoins said:

@Batman23 said:
I looked through a few rolls of the Alaska quarter when they were released. I would say that the majority would grade 63-65. I sent the two best ones in for grading and they came back as 66 and 67. I thought I had a chance at the lofty 68 grade but no luck that day. This was before the invention of the + grade.

You didn't specify whether it's a p or d? I see if it was the Denver, in a 68, would have brought you $650. If it was a p Mint, it would have brought you all alone in the highest grade for the Philadelphia. Nice try.

West coast Denver. Picked up the rolls from the local bank.

jmlanzaf · December 17, 2020 10:22AM

@ricko said:
@ChrisH821... Good point, a lot of rolls were purchased and put away. Jackpot prices will bring them out. Cheers, RickO

Not to mention Mint sets.

jmlanzaf · December 17, 2020 10:23AM

Only "two grades higher"?

Batman23 · December 17, 2020 10:28AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@ricko said:
@ChrisH821... Good point, a lot of rolls were purchased and put away. Jackpot prices will bring them out. Cheers, RickO

Not to mention Mint sets.

For the Alaska coins the mint set had that odd Satin Finish that messed things up. You only got the regular MS from bank rolls.

jmlanzaf · December 17, 2020 10:30AM

@Batman23 said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@ricko said:
@ChrisH821... Good point, a lot of rolls were purchased and put away. Jackpot prices will bring them out. Cheers, RickO

Not to mention Mint sets.

For the Alaska coins the mint set had that odd Satin Finish that messed things up. You only got the regular MS from bank rolls.

Ah, yes. The Satin Finish.

joeykoins · December 17, 2020 1:50PM

Sticking with the "Statehood Quarter" theme. I picked this up today. Nice coin. I think anyway. Does anyone know what that PL sticker is from? I do realize it probably is just another fly by night sticker outlet. Lol. The coin actually does have that "PL" tendency. Slight cameo. The PCGS price Guide has a ms 66 at about $25. I paid $10. I figured, why not, right?

blitzdude · December 17, 2020 2:47PM

Its like cacs only better. Think big MAC. RGDS!

MasonG · December 17, 2020 2:54PM

@joeykoins said:
The PCGS price Guide has a ms 66 at about $25. I paid $10. I figured, why not, right?

There's a PCGS 66 on eBay for $10 (OBO, maybe cheaper) right now. An NGC 66 will set you back $9. I'm not sure I'd be going with the price guide value for this one. But then, that's just me.

jmlanzaf · December 17, 2020 3:27PM

@MasonG said:

@joeykoins said:
The PCGS price Guide has a ms 66 at about $25. I paid $10. I figured, why not, right?

There's a PCGS 66 on eBay for $10 (OBO, maybe cheaper) right now. An NGC 66 will set you back $9. I'm not sure I'd be going with the price guide value for this one. But then, that's just me.

Yes, moderns are rarely accurately portrayed in common grades in the price guides. It is often "whatever you can get".

But $10 seems to be about the right price.

joeykoins · December 17, 2020 3:45PM

@blitzdude said:
Its like cacs only better.

Seriously or you pulling my leg? Lol

joeykoins · December 17, 2020 3:50PM

@Batman23 said:
West coast Denver. Picked up the rolls from the local bank.

So it was the Denver. One grade away huh? I know how that feels.
Hey, minor but did you find any "extra claw" chips?

jmlanzaf · December 17, 2020 3:51PM

@joeykoins said:

@blitzdude said:
Its like cacs only better.

Seriously or you pulling my leg? Lol

MAC only does modern coins, if I recall. Any sticker is as good as the person who does it. I'm not sure a MAC sticker adds any value, but it doesn't hurt.

"Modern Approved Coin", by the way. You can Google it.

joeykoins · December 17, 2020 3:54PM

@jmlanzaf said:
MAC only does modern coins, if I recall. Any sticker is as good as the person who does it. I'm not sure a MAC sticker adds any value, but it doesn't hurt.

So, it's a legit company? Meaning, ok and not bad like a basement company? Thanks

Cameonut · December 17, 2020 4:01PM

I think that MACGE sticker elevates that coin all the way to $10.
Frankly, that is the first MACGE sticker I have ever seen. They must be pretty rare.

Coinscratch · December 17, 2020 4:01PM

@joeykoins said:

@jmlanzaf said:
MAC only does modern coins, if I recall. Any sticker is as good as the person who does it. I'm not sure a MAC sticker adds any value, but it doesn't hurt.

So, it's a legit company? Meaning, ok and not bad like a basement company? Thanks

I'm thinking about starting my own sticker company. I could call it CSF. The dollar store has just the ticket
Seriously though, I seen a PQ sticker on a gold coin and that one was new to me.

Coinscratch · December 17, 2020 4:39PM

Not "Coin Scratch Fever" but "Can't See Far" .

joeykoins · December 17, 2020 4:40PM

Lol. You see all these stickers now. Which one is the most reputable? Are these really worth many auction coins bear?

ChrisH821 · December 17, 2020 4:44PM

@CoinscratchFever said:

@joeykoins said:

@jmlanzaf said:
MAC only does modern coins, if I recall. Any sticker is as good as the person who does it. I'm not sure a MAC sticker adds any value, but it doesn't hurt.

So, it's a legit company? Meaning, ok and not bad like a basement company? Thanks

I'm thinking about starting my own sticker company. I could call it CSF. The dollar store has just the ticket
Seriously though, I seen a PQ sticker on a gold coin and that one was new to me.

The PQ sticker is Barry Stuppler. https://www.mintstategold.com/hot-picks/pq-approved.html
"A "GOLD PQ STICKER" is awarded to rare coins that pass a strict grading standard created by our founder Barry Stuppler, a well-known and highly respected dealer with over 50 years of experience in the numismatic industry.The PQ sticker ensures that you are buying the highest quality coin, which historically has proven to offer the best appreciation and liquidity compared to similar non-PQ certified coins."

joeykoins · December 17, 2020 4:53PM

So would you guys consider Rick's, to be a laugher or legit?

Snaps · December 17, 2020 5:10PM

Those MAC stickers are worthless. I just scroll past any coins that have that sticker when I see them on eBay. I wouldn't even buy it cheap, just because I would have to go through the trouble of peeling it off.

I'd put a little more stock in the cameo sticker from Rick. There are differences in the amount of cameo and he seems to have enough stock to pick out the good ones.

Coinscratch · December 17, 2020 5:18PM

@ChrisH821 that is cool and I had a feeling it was something that carried some weight as I saw the sticker on like a $40,000 gold coin. Needless to say I refined my search to a lower grade :-)

daltex · December 17, 2020 5:38PM

@joeykoins said:

@ricko said:
Did not realize the SHQ's have such value in high grades.... Cheers, RickO

Yes, RickO, I am aware of this market. Which, explains the fact I have a few moderns in my inventory graded by our host. Hoping and chasing those high grades. Very risky in the pocketbook trying to reach those levels. I have a few that just missed by one grade or two for the BIG value! Here are a couple.
My 2000d Jefferson. MS 66 FS. Two grades higher would have brought $300

My 1974d Roosevelt MS 66 No FB.
Two grades higher would have brought $750. Even without FB

>

My 1965p Washington MS 66. One grade higher. $425

Here's one more modern
My 1968s PF.66 DDR Quarter / not Cameo
ONE grade higher would of not only brought $275 but would have placed my coin in the highest grade for that variety.

I hate to say this because it feels like piling on, but just because a price guide says something, especially about coins that are rarely traded, doesn't mean that a coin will "bring" that price.

joeykoins · December 17, 2020 5:40PM

So would you guys consider Rick's, to be a laugher or legit?

joeykoins · December 17, 2020 5:56PM

Can anyone tell me the true difference between this die gouge

Than this die gouge? Besides a few hundred dollars.

Batman23 · December 17, 2020 6:09PM

@joeykoins said:
Can anyone tell me the true difference between this die gouge

Than this die gouge? Besides a few hundred dollars.

Coolness. Coolness is worth money.

Cuprinkor · December 17, 2020 8:29PM

A Delaware quarter that would grade PCGS MS68 (or MS69) would most likely be found in a 1999 mint set where it has been sealed since Day 1.
I guess it's possible an MS68 specimen MIGHT come from an original bag, but a 69? - No Way!

thisistheshow · December 17, 2020 9:28PM

Not sure if this helps @joeykoins , but if I had the ambition to someday "make" a top pop modern, I'd scour this site and others for the words of @wondercoin
From what I can tell he has commented informatively and prolifically on the subject.

High grade JACKPOT?

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