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doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 10, 2020 5:05AM in Sports Talk

I was looking at a list of the highest powered offenses in NFL history and the 2013 Denver Broncos are ranked number one. This is a sandwich thread, something to look at and ponder about while eating a sandwhich, or perhaps some cookies!

  1. 2013 Broncos
  2. 1999 Rams
  3. 2007 Patriots
  4. 2018 Chiefs
  5. 2011 Packers
  6. 1998 Vikings
  7. 2016 Falcons
  8. 2011 Saints
  9. 1983 Redskins
  10. 1990 Bills

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,643 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2020 5:14AM

    For the time the 1950 Rams were unbelievable, they averaged 38.8 points a game. They also hold or held the record for scoring 165 points in a 3 game span, plus they scored 60+ points in 2 games. Crazy for that time frame especially

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    For the time the 1950 Rams were unbelievable, they averaged 38.8 points a game. They also hold or held the record for scoring 165 points in a 3 game span, plus they scored 60+ points in 2 games. Crazy for that time frame especially

    I did not know that. A book was written about Rams football in the 50s, I might just have to pick up a copy, I love to read about football in that era.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,251 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember some of those well. of course the 07 Patriots. the 1990 Bills were awesome with Thurman Thomas. Who could forget the greatest show on turf? and I loved the 1998 Vikings with Moss and a returned to football Randall Cunningham.

    Notice that there is a connection between two of these teams, one Randy Moss. when his head was screwed on straight, there was noone better.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I miss watching those Bills teams with Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas and Andre Reed. And of Course the great Bruce Smith.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1967 Oakland Raiders were an honorable mention on the list, of course they were still in the AFL at that point, but they were led by Daryl Lamonica who's nickname was "The Mad Bomber".

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2020 8:53AM

    Another honorable mention on the list was the 1984 Miami Dolphins, led by Dan Marino, who had one of the greatest seasons in history when he became the first quarterback to break the 5,000 yard passing mark. He threw for 5,084 yards and 48 TDs that year. The 1984 Dolphins were the only team that year to average 400 total yards, 300 passing yards, and 30 points per game.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    Yes, I miss watching those Bills teams with Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas and Andre Reed. And of Course the great Bruce Smith.

    I was never a Bills fan but it’s a sin that those guys never won a Super Bowl, it really is.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And I hope this poor fellow is ok. Best sports video ever... https://youtu.be/qU4m0k7e1To

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    And I hope this poor fellow is ok. Best sports video ever... https://youtu.be/qU4m0k7e1To

    😂😂😂😂 Oh my god, I feel so bad for that guy!

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    @perkdog said:
    For the time the 1950 Rams were unbelievable, they averaged 38.8 points a game. They also hold or held the record for scoring 165 points in a 3 game span, plus they scored 60+ points in 2 games. Crazy for that time frame especially

    I did not know that. A book was written about Rams football in the 50s, I might just have to pick up a copy, I love to read about football in that era.

    Double D, I bought that book and I do not recommend it, it’s not really all that much about the early Rams, more about an autobiography of the author. I was disappointed and donated it

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog, Thank you for the heads up, I was thinking about buying a copy of it. You just saved me some money! 🖒🖒

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    @perkdog, Thank you for the heads up, I was thinking about buying a copy of it. You just saved me some money! 🖒🖒

    I got your 6 Buddy 👍👍

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @doubledragon said:
    @perkdog, Thank you for the heads up, I was thinking about buying a copy of it. You just saved me some money! 🖒🖒

    I got your 6 Buddy 👍👍

    Thanks perk, I got your back anytime pal. 🍻

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    Notice that there is a connection between two of these teams, one Randy Moss. when his head was screwed on straight, there was noone better.

    Also between the Patriots organization and the 2016 Falcons.

    28-3

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another honorable mention on the list was the 1994 San Francisco 49ers, led by Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Ricky Watters, and Deion Sanders. I remember this team very well because Deion had just left the Falcons and joined the 49ers. When the 49ers played the Falcons that year, I remember Deion intercepted a Jeff George pass and took it back 93 yards for a TD, and he did his Deion dance in the endzone. Upon seeing that play and the dance, I became obsessed with Deion Sanders and started trying to copy him. I bought his line of Nike shoes. When we played football in my neighborhood I did his dance when I would score. I bought his jersey. I was in 8th grade at the time, and it was a phase I went through. I'll never forget my temporary obsession with Deion Sanders.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    🤔

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We won't get into my James Brown phase right now, we'll save it for another time!

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    🤔

    He was such a hired gun, Dallas to SF on legit powerhouse teams. Him and Haley lol

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @doubledragon said:
    🤔

    He was such a hired gun, Dallas to SF on legit powerhouse teams. Him and Haley lol

    Yep, he won a Super Bowl with the 49ers, and then one season later, he won a Super Bowl with the Cowboys. That was insane.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,251 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    And I hope this poor fellow is ok. Best sports video ever... https://youtu.be/qU4m0k7e1To

    poor guy is either possessed by the devil or about 10 seconds away from a massive stroke. not sure which.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2020 11:14AM

    Another honorable mention on the list was the 1998 Denver Broncos led by John Elway and Terrell Davis on offense and Bill Romanowski on defense. That season, Denver averaged 31.3 points a game, and Terrell Davis rushed for 2,008 yards. The Broncos finished off their season winning their second straight Super Bowl going back to back, which is extremely difficult to do.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    After that 1998 Super Bowl, John Elway left our lives as a player forever.

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    the 1990 Bills were awesome with Thurman Thomas.

    They really weren't. They led the scoring, yeah, but under 27 points per game. Even for the era, that was nothing special.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,251 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @craig44 said:
    the 1990 Bills were awesome with Thurman Thomas.

    They really weren't. They led the scoring, yeah, but under 27 points per game. Even for the era, that was nothing special.

    In the context of that season, Yes, they really were. they led the league in scoring and were one of only two teams to score over 400 points. they had some dynamic players on the team and also led the league in point differential.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • AFLfanAFLfan Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No love for the Chargers? Sid Gillman's AFL teams (Hadl, Alworth, Lincoln, Lowe) and Don Coryell's 1970s-1980s) squads (Fouts, Jefferson, Joiner, Chandler, Winslow, Muncie) were both pretty explosive, especially for their times.

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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    I was looking at a list of the highest powered offenses in NFL history and the 2013 Denver Broncos are ranked number one. This is a sandwich thread, something to look at and ponder about while eating a sandwhich, or perhaps some cookies!

    1. 2013 Broncos
    2. 1999 Rams
    3. 2007 Patriots
    4. 2018 Chiefs
    5. 2011 Packers
    6. 1998 Vikings
    7. 2016 Falcons
    8. 2011 Saints
    9. 1983 Redskins
    10. 1990 Bills

    Rams the only one of these teams to win it all?

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  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @doubledragon said:
    I was looking at a list of the highest powered offenses in NFL history and the 2013 Denver Broncos are ranked number one. This is a sandwich thread, something to look at and ponder about while eating a sandwhich, or perhaps some cookies!

    1. 2013 Broncos
    2. 1999 Rams
    3. 2007 Patriots
    4. 2018 Chiefs
    5. 2011 Packers
    6. 1998 Vikings
    7. 2016 Falcons
    8. 2011 Saints
    9. 1983 Redskins
    10. 1990 Bills

    Rams the only one of these teams to win it all?

    Yes, they were the only team on that list to it all, I found that to be very ironic.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AFLfan said:
    No love for the Chargers? Sid Gillman's AFL teams (Hadl, Alworth, Lincoln, Lowe) and Don Coryell's 1970s-1980s) squads (Fouts, Jefferson, Joiner, Chandler, Winslow, Muncie) were both pretty explosive, especially for their times.

    My goodness, I didn't realize you literally wrote the book on the Air Coryell offense! 😂😂

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @craig44 said:
    the 1990 Bills were awesome with Thurman Thomas.

    They really weren't. They led the scoring, yeah, but under 27 points per game. Even for the era, that was nothing special.

    The Oilers had nearly 1000 more yards gained that year and almost as many points scored.

    I would say the Bills' defense contributed more than the Oilers.

    Houston was first in yards gained and second in scoring, while Buffalo was first in scoring and #6 in yards gained, so they had to gain less yards to score their points.

    NEITHER team won the SB that year. The Giants with the #15 Offense and #1 Defense did.

    Defense wins championships!

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  • AFLfanAFLfan Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon - I've studied those teams a bit... ;)

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  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AFLfan said:
    @doubledragon - I've studied those teams a bit... ;)

    Yes, I can certainly see that! 😂😂🖒🖒

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    @Tabe said:

    @craig44 said:
    the 1990 Bills were awesome with Thurman Thomas.

    They really weren't. They led the scoring, yeah, but under 27 points per game. Even for the era, that was nothing special.

    In the context of that season, Yes, they really were. they led the league in scoring and were one of only two teams to score over 400 points. they had some dynamic players on the team and also led the league in point differential.

    Awesome implies historically great not just "good for the year".

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @craig44 said:

    @Tabe said:

    @craig44 said:
    the 1990 Bills were awesome with Thurman Thomas.

    They really weren't. They led the scoring, yeah, but under 27 points per game. Even for the era, that was nothing special.

    In the context of that season, Yes, they really were. they led the league in scoring and were one of only two teams to score over 400 points. they had some dynamic players on the team and also led the league in point differential.

    Awesome implies historically great not just "good for the year".

    Although I agree with your point, they made it to 4 Super Bowls in a row. They were historically great.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    Rams the only one of these teams to win it all?

    Yes, they were the only team on that list to it all, I found that to be very ironic.

    I think it points out why it's a team game. Offense and a great QB gets your attention (and praise) but without a good defense, only 1 out of the 10 best of all time won a SB.

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  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    Although I agree with your point, they made it to 4 Super Bowls in a row. They were historically great.

    The team overall was, the offense was not. One of those Super Bowl seasons, they averaged 20.6 points a game!

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @perkdog said:

    Although I agree with your point, they made it to 4 Super Bowls in a row. They were historically great.

    The team overall was, the offense was not. One of those Super Bowl seasons, they averaged 20.6 points a game!

    I didn’t research it but that’s pretty crazy, I didn’t know that

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @perkdog said:

    Although I agree with your point, they made it to 4 Super Bowls in a row. They were historically great.

    The team overall was, the offense was not. One of those Super Bowl seasons, they averaged 20.6 points a game!

    Buffalo's Offense was ranked (points scored) #1, #2, #3 and #7 from 1990-1993. Their defense was ranked #6, #19, #14, and #5.

    In 1993 scoring was down. Denver led the AFC in scoring at 23.3 PPG. Overall, the 49ers were the only team to score more than 23.5 per game.

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  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2020 10:21AM

    I think they missed the 2004 Colts.
    Peyton Manning had 49 TDs, Edgerrin James had over 1500 yards rushing, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, and Brandon Stokley all had over 1000 yards receiving and double digit TDs, and Dallas Clark and Marcus Pollard combined for 11 TDs at tight end.

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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @orioles93 said:
    I think they missed the 2004 Colts.
    Peyton Manning had 49 TDs, Edgerrin James had over 1500 yards rushing, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, and Brandon Stokley all had over 1000 yards receiving and double digit TDs, and Dallas Clark and Marcus Pollard combined for 11 TDs at tight end.

    They failed to win it all as well.

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,251 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @craig44 said:

    @Tabe said:

    @craig44 said:
    the 1990 Bills were awesome with Thurman Thomas.

    They really weren't. They led the scoring, yeah, but under 27 points per game. Even for the era, that was nothing special.

    In the context of that season, Yes, they really were. they led the league in scoring and were one of only two teams to score over 400 points. they had some dynamic players on the team and also led the league in point differential.

    Awesome implies historically great not just "good for the year".

    but you have to look at the context. just because offense is down for a season doesnt mean the best team offense or a single player wasnt awesome for that year even if the raw stats dont appear awesome today. they led the league in scoring with the run and shoot that season. yes, that season they were awesome. transport them across time and space and they would be awesome today as well and they would certainly be putting up video game numbers like teams do today. likewise, take the current Chiefs offense and insert them back in 1990 and mahomes would not be on pace for 5000 yards.

    take a baseball example. Carl Yazstrzemski 1968. a historically great season. in fact, according to war as good as any that mike trout has ever had. Yet, he only hit .301, slg .495, 23 HR, 57 XBH, 74 RBI, 90 r. he earned 10.5 war for that season because of context. 1968 was a terrible year for offense. on the surface, Yaz had a very average season, but in context it was all time great. 10.5 WAR. a crazy good number.

    yes, leading the league in scoring in 1990 is an awesome offense.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,062 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2020 3:07PM

    @craig44 said:

    yes, leading the league in scoring in 1990 is an awesome offense.

    So leading the league any year in offense means the offense is awesome? I would say no. "Awesome" is not something that happens every year. Especially when their lead over the #2 offense was exactly one offensive touchdown. Buffalo's unstoppable offensive juggernaut gained 1000 fewer yards than the league leader and actually finished 6th in yards gained.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2020 4:25PM

    @Tabe said:

    @craig44 said:

    yes, leading the league in scoring in 1990 is an awesome offense.

    So leading the league any year in offense means the offense is awesome? I would say no. "Awesome" is not something that happens every year. Especially when their lead over the #2 offense was exactly one offensive touchdown. Buffalo's unstoppable offensive juggernaut gained 1000 fewer yards than the league leader and actually finished 6th in yards gained.

    I disagree, but do not feel up to arguing with you over the semantics of the word awesome

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

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