Join me in reporting this scam?

Panda4456

Here is a fake 1906 philippines peso
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143864398870

I believe this to be a fake Poland coin too
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143855989031

Another scam seller!

YQQ

please tell us why you think these coins are fake?
you stated clearly "here is a fake" on the 1906 peso coin

AUandAG

What do you see and can you post a real one?
The Poland one my best be posted in the world coin forum.

bob

Panda4456

@YQQ said:
please tell us why you think these coins are fake?
you stated clearly "here is a fake" on the 1906 peso coin

Because it looks clearly like a fake. I guess you can tell if it’s a fake if the coin looks like a counterfeit. There are dozens of 1906 pesos that look identical popping up on eBay. I could post some photos comparing this mans 1906 to a real one but I don’t think it’s necessary. It’s also a 20,000 dollar coin in that condition if it were real. The guy has like 3 feedback and one of them says he received a reproduction. The guy is selling from out of the UK not in usa.

CaptHenway

The 1906 Peso is a Proof-only issue, so I believe you are correct.

Can't tell anything about the seller's Polish coin except that the "slab" is hilarious.

Panda4456

For those of you who can’t see the difference between the real and fake. The fake one is missing the mint mark and has different font. The eagle looks different too. There is a proof 1906 which has about 500 mintage but this is obviously a counterfeit

CaptHenway

Good view of the fatty letters on the no mint mark one.

CaptHenway

Take a deep breath and let it out. Not everybody that asks questions is a hater. Most people are not as familiar with the Philippine coinage as you are. Speaking as a former Authenticator, I find that it helps if, when you condemn a piece, you give a few reasons why. If you had mentioned that this was a Proof-only issue in your OP, everybody could have seen that this was obviously not a Proof.

Panda4456

Looks like eBay is alright with allowing these fakes. Many of us have reported these items

MFeld

@Panda4456 said:
Looks like eBay is alright with allowing these fakes. Many of us have reported these items

You made a similar comment previously on an item that ended up being removed by EBay. They don’t always act and when they do, it’s not always quickly. But I and others have been reporting counterfeits for many years and based on what we have experienced, EBay is not “alright with allowing these fakes”.

IkesT

I have a hypothesis, which is that action is taken on fake eBay items only after a certain number of reports has been made. I say this because items that I have reported as an individual have never been taken down, but items that are reported collectively by the group are very often taken down.

Panda4456

@IkesT said:
I have a hypothesis, which is that action is taken on fake eBay items only after a certain number of reports has been made. I say this because items that I have reported as an individual have never been taken down, but items that are reported collectively by the group are very often taken down.

@IkesT said:
I have a hypothesis, which is that action is taken on fake eBay items only after a certain number of reports has been made. I say this because items that I have reported as an individual have never been taken down, but items that are reported collectively by the group are very often taken down.

I think so. That’s partly why I invited you all to join me.

rec78

@IkesT said:
I have a hypothesis, which is that action is taken on fake eBay items only after a certain number of reports has been made. I say this because items that I have reported as an individual have never been taken down, but items that are reported collectively by the group are very often taken down.

I think that you are correct. Many fakes have been reported and ebay took them down from this forum alone. So the OP used the right approach by asking for us to report it. If you see a fake, start a thread like this one and when enough reports are sent, Ebay will take it down. One or two may not be enough.

Reported.

MasonG

@IkesT said:
I have a hypothesis, which is that action is taken on fake eBay items only after a certain number of reports has been made. I say this because items that I have reported as an individual have never been taken down, but items that are reported collectively by the group are very often taken down.

Look at it from eBay's perspective- Member A says item is legit, Member B says it's fake. eBay doesn't know and can't be sure. At this point, it's a toss-up, either could be right. But if 10 or 20 or 50 members report it as fake, it's a much safer bet it really is one. Taking time to investigate costs them money, taking items down after some number of complaints is cheap.

mannie gray

Both are reported.
The Polish coin because it shows a numerical grade from an unrecognized "service."

Panda4456

The polish coin sold for 60 our efforts failed 😞

ricko

From my observations, this forum has been highly successful in getting fake coins removed from ebay. Sometimes we are not fast enough, but usually they get pulled. That is why I ask that when one is found, we post a screenshot here, for educational purposes, before it gets pulled. Cheers, RickO

AUandAG

Ebay seems to handle fakes different in different parts of the world. Europe seems especially difficult to get them removed. Just my WAG. Here in the US I find that if there is sufficient time remaining, like days, they take their time. Perhaps the fraud department acts quickest on those that are closest to ending first.

I had no idea it was a proof only issue. Yes, it's certainly not a proof coin and that was obvious.

bob

goldrealmoney79

i know the auction on polish coin closed, but i reported them anyways, maybe we can still block the sale.

Panda4456

Keep the reports coming. eBay is still allowing them to go through