1946d DDR- 002 Jefferson,any Cherry pickers reference?

joeykoins

Hi guys, I brought this variety up before. I was wondering if there is any listings in any Cherry Pickers' Guide? In my CPG, it doesn't show it. Variety vista has it listed as the 1946d ddr- 002. Does anyone know if Coneca has it? Thanks guy's.
Here is Variety vista's pics

Here are pics of mine

ECHOES

http://doubleddie.com/

joeykoins

@ECHOES said:
http://doubleddie.com/

Thanks. Is there any CPG's listings?
doubleddie, 002 doesn't exactly show variety vista's same pic.

Thanks anyway

ECHOES

Wexler or Coneca, these are the two sources I use.
Join Coneca, great club and wealth of info on die varieties.

jesbroken

I would send it to James Wiles at Variety Vista(Coneca) and have him verify it or not.
JMO
jim

IkesT

The varieties listed on VarietyVista are CONECA varieties. If a variety is also listed in Cherrypicker's, the FS number is noted on the VarietyVista page. So in this particular case, no, it is not a Cherrypicker's variety.

Neat DDR, though - great that you found one, anyway!

IkesT

By the way, you are comparing the wrong E's - your E is the E in "CENTS". So you should compare it to the photo below:

joeykoins

Here is the correct "E". Lol Thanks

Variety Vista

Not worth sending in?

IkesT

Not worth sending in?

As a general rule, non-Cherrypicker's varieties have less of a market for them, because relatively few people know about them. There are always exceptions, and someone who really has their finger on the pulse of Jefferson nickels would have a better idea which ones those are.

You could drop an email to Bill Fivaz and say that you have a neat unlisted (possibly rare) Jefferson nickel DDR that you'd be happy to photograph for the next edition of CPG. James Wiles has seen only one example, and Wexler doesn't have it listed, so this could be a hard to find variety.

Remember that if you send it in to PCGS now, they will designate it as a "minor DDR" - they won't list the variety.

joeykoins

@IkesT said:

Not worth sending in?

As a general rule, non-Cherrypicker's variety
Remember that if you send it in to PCGS now, they will designate it as a "minor DDR" - they won't list the variety.

Ok, thanks for all the info. I'll consider sending an email to Mr. Fivaz. That'll really be somethin' if it would be rare and thrown into the next CPG.

joeykoins

@jesbroken said:
I would send it to James Wiles at Variety Vista(Coneca) and have him verify it or not.
JMO
jim

Thank you too mm man. I'll consider as well.

joeykoins

@ECHOES said:
Wexler or Coneca, these are the two sources I use.
Join Coneca, great club and wealth of info on die varieties.

Thank you also, buddy. Has anybody recall anyone ever posting this particular variety on the forum before?

oih82w8

The only listing I see in the CPG, 6th Ed. Vol 1, for 1946-D FS-501 (RPM-002) D over Horizontal D

koynekwest

@ECHOES said:
Wexler or Coneca, these are the two sources I use.
Join Coneca, great club and wealth of info on die varieties.

I will second this advice. I've been a member of CONECA for over 30 years. It's a great resource to learn about doubled dies and many other anomalies.

joeykoins

@oih82w8 said:
The only listing I see in the CPG, 6th Ed. Vol 1, for 1946-D FS-501 (RPM-002) D over Horizontal D

Thanks, I think you mean the D over Horizontal D, on the 1942? The '46 I think has the"inverted D"?

oih82w8

@joeykoins said:

@oih82w8 said:
The only listing I see in the CPG, 6th Ed. Vol 1, for 1946-D FS-501 (RPM-002) D over Horizontal D

Thanks, I think you mean the D over Horizontal D, on the 1942? The '46 I think has the"inverted D"?

From the CPG:

joeykoins

@oih82w8 said:
From the CPG:

I do see the CPG has that variety, but unfortunately it doesn't have mine, thanks. I'm wondering which variety is amongst the hardest to find? The '46d/d or the 46d DDR?

davewesen

If your coin is not a nice MS example, I would not certify it but maybe keep it in a 2x2 with notes written on it.

I checked over at NGCs varieties that they include (they seem to have 3 times as many as just the CPG numbers) and it is not found there.

With the slowdown of new CPG editions, it could easily be 10 years before next Vol 1 edition and 2-3 editions before your variety listed

ricko

Interesting find and good pictures as well....Now I have to check my nickels.... Hoping for a lot of snow this winter, my list of coins to check for is long... Cheers, RickO

joeykoins

I was thinking? Is it quite possible that this 1946 ddr, maybe happen from the transition from the previous year 1945 ddr? Although, mine's from Denver. So maybe, a reverse of the 1945? Here's the year earlier with similar doubling?

joeykoins

@IkesT said:

Not worth sending in?

As a general rule, non-Cherrypicker's varieties have less of a market for them, because relatively few people know about them. There are always exceptions, and someone who really has their finger on the pulse of Jefferson nickels would have a better idea which ones those are.

You could drop an email to Bill Fivaz and say that you have a neat unlisted (possibly rare) Jefferson nickel DDR...

Just to let you know, I did just send Mr. Fivaz an email stating what you suggested. Along with many pics . I also mentioned that I'd like to submit the coin but without the listing in the Cherry Pickers Guide, my coin would be designated only a minor variety. We shall see what and if anything becomes of this? Thanks again. I'll let you guys know anything I know.

IkesT

@joeykoins said:

@IkesT said:

Not worth sending in?

As a general rule, non-Cherrypicker's varieties have less of a market for them, because relatively few people know about them. There are always exceptions, and someone who really has their finger on the pulse of Jefferson nickels would have a better idea which ones those are.

You could drop an email to Bill Fivaz and say that you have a neat unlisted (possibly rare) Jefferson nickel DDR...

Just to let you know, I did just send Mr. Fivaz an email stating what you suggested. Along with many pics . I also mentioned that I'd like to submit the coin but without the listing in the Cherry Pickers Guide, my coin would be designated only a minor variety. We shall see what and if anything becomes of this? Thanks again. I'll let you guys know anything I know.

Neat - will be interesting to hear what he says!

FYI, neither of the 1945 DDR's looks like the 1946-D (hint: look at the direction of the doubling).

BigDowgie

Nice post! I haven't been in the Forum groove for a while.

There are lots of neat Jefferson Nickel varieties out there. This 1946-D DDR is pretty nice with the obvious separations in the serifs of FIVE. It is cool, but is it Cherry Pickers cool? My experiences lead me to say no. First it is circulated and it's just not a wow variety. We know there are two examples, yours and the one listed on Variety Vista (CONECA). Both circulated, which makes it less desirable.

NGC has started their goofy variety attributions for Jeffersons, and I assume for other denominations. Maybe they pump a variety number for it, but need collector excitement, which this one does not have. It might be rare, but if no one wants it, it worth five cents.

I'm always on the hunt for Jefferson varieties hoping to have the ones selected for the next Cherry Pickers. Too bad we will probably have to wait another 10 years, as noted above! That's not going to stop me!

Happy hunting

Check out my "All Variety" Jefferson Set
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/nickels/jefferson-nickels-specialty-sets/jefferson-nickels-fs-complete-variety-set-circulation-strikes-1938-1964/alltimeset/43232

joeykoins

@BigDowgie said:
Nice post! I haven't been in the Forum groove for a while.

There are lots of neat Jefferson Nickel varieties out there. This 1946-D DDR is pretty nice with the obvious separations in the serifs of FIVE. It is cool, but is it Cherry Pickers cool? My experiences lead me to say no. First it is circulated and it's just not a wow variety. We know there are two examples, yours and the one listed on Variety Vista (CONECA). Both circulated, which makes it less desirable.

NGC has started their goofy variety attributions for Jeffersons, and I assume for other denominations. Maybe they pump a variety number for it, but need collector excitement, which this one does not have. It might be rare, but if no one wants it, it worth five cents.

I'm always on the hunt for Jefferson varieties hoping to have the ones selected for the next Cherry Pickers. Too bad we will probably have to wait another 10 years, as noted above! That's not going to stop me!

Happy hunting

Check out my "All Variety" Jefferson Set
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/nickels/jefferson-nickels-specialty-sets/jefferson-nickels-fs-complete-variety-set-circulation-strikes-1938-1964/alltimeset/43232

Your post is cool and interesting as well. Your inventory is beautiful, dude. Thanks. I see you have the 1939 Reverse of 1940pf.
Weeks ago, In which has been sent to PCGS for grading, I hunted down the 1940 Reverse of 1938 PF. Jefferson. Are you aware of this variety?

BigDowgie

Yes, I am! That 1940 Rev38 proof is a tough one! Nice find!

I've been collecting the Jefferson series for 30+ years and have been focused on varieties for the past 10. My quest is to finish that "All Variety" Set. Unfortunately, there are 10 dates that no know varieties have been discovered. This is where the hunt is never ending.....find that discovery example!

If you ever have Jefferson Nickel variety questions, let me know.

Happy hunting

joeykoins

@BigDowgie said:
If you ever have Jefferson Nickel variety questions, let me know.

Most certainly, will do, thanks. You made me feel good about my Jefferson variety. Both of them. Lol. Can't wait to have it on my person.

BigDowgie

Nice! That's a keeper!