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100 Duels with 1 resulting in death and my NEWP 1806 DBH

CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

Yes, my discussion title is odd, but I looked up events that transpired in 1806 since that is the date of my new draped bust half. I found an interesting reference to Andrew Jackson, many years before he became President:

"On May 30, 1806, future President Andrew Jackson kills a man who accused him of cheating on a horse race bet and then insulted his wife, Rachel.

Contemporaries described Jackson, who had already served in Tennessee’s Senate and was practicing law at the time of the duel, as argumentative, physically violent and fond of dueling to solve conflicts. Estimates of the number of duels in which Jackson participated ranged from five to 100."

https://history.com/this-day-in-history/andrew-jackson-kills-charles-dickinson-in-duel#:~:text=On%20May%2030%2C%201806%2C%20future,then%20insulted%20his%20wife%2C%20Rachel.

More on his temperament and his duels:

"Andrew Jackson, the controversial seventh president of the United States, was notoriously thin-skinned. He had a temper that landed him the reputation of a volcano that “only the most intrepid or recklessly curious cared to see it erupt,” according to biographer H.W. Brands. Jackson seemed to recognize that about himself, once saying, “I was born for a storm, and a calm does not suit me.”"

"Not every time Jackson lost his cool with a gun in his hand is documented, but here are four that helped give him his reputation as a rage-filled lunatic — and a few that left his body rattling “like a bag of marbles.”"

https://timeline.com/andrew-jackson-duels-dickenson-f281c96fb9f8

I decided on buying this CRO coin because I didn't have a DBH and I found the VF half alluring due to its color vs the common gray toned coins often seen. For those variety collectors, this is Overton variety 119 (Rev DS-3), R3. Exhibits strike weakness on obverse center and on eagles right wing. A photo is below and a video link so you can see the coin as it is tilted:

Most of my small type collection is AU and above but there is quality in every grade and, with early pieces especially, budget is always a limitation for me. Of course, if I had .25M, I could always go for this MS66+:

Yes, I'm highlighting an extreme difference by comparison, but mine was under 1K. Always wonder if I paid too much with CRO, but I sure like their quality offerings.

Thanks for reading my post and please feel free to share your favorite DBH, regardless of condition.

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Comments

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,016 ✭✭✭✭✭

    an interesting read

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2020 8:25AM

    Man, that sure is beautiful. I love the color. o:) The 1806 was weakly struck (from what I know about the issue), so this is a pretty good example. Some Draped Bust coinage is on my bucket list, as I have always admired it. I am VERY jealous. ;) Yes, CRO has some great offerings. I wonder where he finds all of this stuff? You'll pay up but you'll always be satisfied, IMHO. Congratulations!

    Edit to add: I knew that Jackson had participated in duels; but I didn't know that he was that volatile. Interesting read.

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BRING BACK DUELS!

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And gorgeous pieces BTW. Almost forgot!

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pistol dueling was accepted for a while.... I did duel with swords for a while...all in fun of course... There are a lot of stories about Andrew Jackson, quite a colorful character. Cheers, RickO

  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yup, Old Hickory was quite a controversial character and I have read he really really hated the British

    Steve

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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like that piece! Nice toning!

  • spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,072 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great coin CB and typical of the color and quality you aspire to have. Well done! Can't overpay with CRO, and it is typical of the quality offerings JA always has.

    Best, SH


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  • chesterbchesterb Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2020 12:17PM

    Very nice coin! I have become an AGRE coinatic myself.

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @chesterb said:
    Very nice coin! I have become a AGRE coinatic myself.

    Get your checkbook ready....😬

    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • chesterbchesterb Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:

    @chesterb said:
    Very nice coin! I have become a AGRE coinatic myself.

    Get your checkbook ready....😬

    shhhhh! o:)

  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OldEastside said:
    Yup, Old Hickory was quite a controversial character and I have read he really really hated the British

    Steve

    Getting slashed in the head by a British officers sword as a youth will do that to you. 😉

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    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



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  • goldengolden Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2020 10:05AM

    Since this thread mentions Andrew Jackson some of you might find the following interesting.

    Andrew Jackson Donelson was the nephew of Rachel Jackson. In 1836 he finished his new mansion across the road from Andrew Jackson's Hermitage. It was called " Popular Grove ". President Martin Van Buren suggested he rename it " Tulip Grove " in 1841.

    When my Grandmother was a teenager she lived in the mansion with her parents and two brothers. Her parents rented the house and farmed the land. One day a man, who would be my Grandfather, was plowing the land across the road. My Grand mother wanted to meet him. She walked out to the road and asked him if the mail had come. Her mother teased her because she already knew that the mail had not come. This was around 1910 and they were married in 1915. I have several post cards that he sent her there before they were married.

    The name of one of my Grandmother's brother is carved in the attic of the Mansion. The mansion was acquired by The Ladies Hermitage Association in 1964. Today the mansion is only open for special events.

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