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This Walker looks original to me. UPDATED before & after

MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 21, 2020 7:41PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I picked this up today after work just because I like the look,
Aside from an acetone bath (where it sits right now) I don't plan to mess with it at all. It does have really nice luster underneath whatever tarnish is sitting on it. I think it's very original but I'm sure there are other opinions.
Without knowing exactly what PCGS does to a coin for their conservation services, would this be a candidate?
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A little tilt...
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    hatchethatchet Posts: 54 ✭✭✭

    @Walkerfan said:
    I don't like mottled toning.

    Very common date, so not worth the cost of conservation. JMHO.

    Not worth conservation, but if it were, what could be the expected result of conservation on this coin?

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS will not conserve due to toning....not a candidate.

    bob :)

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    FredFFredF Posts: 526 ✭✭✭

    PCGS will not conserve due to toning....not a candidate.

    The first coin showed at https://www.pcgs.com/restoration has mottled toning and shows that it could be restored.

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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree - too common to pay the expense.

    WS

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    ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Look at the thumb on that one. That’s a very poor strike for a very common date with typically very strong strike. No hand and thumb definition. Pass.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :/

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    JBNJBN Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Enjoy your half dollar. Posts by @Walkerfan and @ThreeCentSilverFL cover the considerations.

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cheaper to just buy some EZ-zest. I predict the toning would come off but the surfaces will still show some dull surfaces where the toning used to be.

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    ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Meltdown said:
    boring, likely dipped out white ones with ticks and scuffs all over

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    That sounds like the shops around me LOL B)

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Meltdown said:
    Ha. I figured as much. Of course I know it's not worth the cost, I was just throwing this up for conversation. This was $24 at my shop and surrounded by boring, likely dipped out white ones with ticks and scuffs all over. I just appreciated the look more than the others. I'm in this hobby for the fun and widgets like this one sti speak to me.

    If the luster is there; I could appreciate it more.

    It is certainly an interesting piece.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 21, 2020 6:57PM

    @coinJP said:
    Cheaper to just buy some EZ-zest. I predict the toning would come off but the surfaces will still show some dull surfaces where the toning used to be.

    I’d try MS70 first, if the results with acetone don’t give you what you want.
    EZ Zest could turn it into one of the dipped out coins that the OP mentioned. It’s a last resort in my book.

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,928 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I second the MS70! Great candidate.

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredF said:

    PCGS will not conserve due to toning....not a candidate.

    The first coin showed at https://www.pcgs.com/restoration has mottled toning and shows that it could be restored.

    Read the fine print:
    Toning
    PCGS Restoration will not remove original toning simply to make a coin white.
    PCGS Restoration will never add toning to a coin.
    In cases where PCGS determines that removing toning is necessary and desirable and will not detract from the coin, it may be done. This type of toning may be the result of improper storage, interaction with corrosive materials, or a stain due to an accidental spill.

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    for $24 it would be fun to experiment with it

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OK... talked me into it. Here's a light q-tip make over in MS70.
    I can see arguments for both before and after preference.
    I'm on the fence, it looks very nice in hand. A little less nice from my photos.

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    DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 21, 2020 7:45PM

    Solid MS70 job. Not worth grading, though. Certainly more sale-able now.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks much better now. FWIW--I don't think it was original before. I think it was improperly dipped and rinsed.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks much better after that grungy gunk was removed. That was not tarnish, that was some type of deposited residue. Cheers, RickO

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks better overall....you did lose the original 'skin', which looked particularly nice on the reverse, but those speckles & freckles on the obverse were a major
    detractor, and the luster bands show pretty well now.

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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not for me.

    Good choice using M70, as it looks much better now.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the 'toning' came off with MS70 then it wasn't toning but some other sort of surface contamination. As dark and splotchy as it was I'm not surprised. Looks better now!

    Collector, occasional seller

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,928 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is that a wheel mark down the middle of the bird to the leg or luster band?

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    2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,274 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2020 6:46PM

    That became an attractive coin. Nice

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,569 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The MS-70 job improved the coin IMO. Not worth grading, but a great album coin. Also, if you have not done so already, I would do a final soak in acetone to get any MS-70 residue off.

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,569 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Also, if you want to try another experiment, stick it in a coin envelope for 2 years to see if it will re-tone to cover the hairlines the MS-70 revealed.

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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the 'toning' came off with MS70 then it wasn't toning but some other sort of surface contamination.

    this was my first thought when the "after" pictures showed up.

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