Does the 1976 No-S Proof Dollar / Judd-2164 Pattern have a unique reverse?

Zoins

I was looking at the reverse of Judd-2164 / Pollock-2088 and noticed that the tops of the letters TE in STATES don't seem to line up. I thought this would be strange for a production die so I looked up regular issue coins where the letters seem to line up better. The letters also look thinner to me.

Does Judd-2164 have a unique reverse die (and hub)? Or am I seeing something that's not there?

Below are TrueViews for:

1. Judd-2164
2. 1976 Type 2
3. 1976-D Type 2

IkesT

@Zoins said:
I was looking at the reverse of Judd-2164 / Pollock-2088 and noticed that the tops of the letters TE in STATES don't line up. I thought this would be strange for a production die so I looked up regular issue coins where the letters line up better. The letters also look thinner to me.

Does Judd-2164 have a unique reverse die (and hub)? Or am I seeing something that's not there?

Good idea to check, but it looks the same to me. It can be tricky to compare fine details on proof coins because of a) differences in thickness of lettering or other details due to differential die polishing and b) differences in appearance due to lighting/glare.

Comparison of Judd-2164 with a regular clad proof 1976-S Type 2:

CaptHenway

When I had the piece in hand at Coin World back in 1977(?) I never thought to double check the hub. Looked like a normal Type 2 to me.

davewesen

serifs or tips on the S look different

ricko

I agree with @davewesen .... stylized serifs appear different. Cheers, RickO

wondercoin

I’ll ask Justin to take a good look at the coin later next week and make a definitive determination that I can report back here.

Thank you Zoins (and others)

Wondercoin

wondercoin

Update...

Justin was unavailable until next week to travel to where the coin is stored. But, he does expect to go over there for a look next week. Wondercoin

Crypto

Looks the same to me