very strong die clash jefferson nickel 1940-S ?!?!
mok13
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Hello,
So here unfortunately bad shape but with a significant die clash.
On the obverse half of the nose and ponytail missing
On the reverse, i've seen coin's called monticello on fire, here it'is blown up !!!
has anyone seen one like that before?
I did many pictures:
Henri, From the French Riviera with love
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imo. the top 3 image are some form of die fatigue/die state. commonly seen on buffalos as well.
an overlay may show overlap those areas but doesn't look likely going by the partial images.
Extreme die deterioration.
Henri, From the French Riviera with love
Does not look like a die clash. I agree with the die deterioration... very worn die.
That nickel is very worn and suffered badly in circulation.... Likely the above assessment of die deterioration has preceded a very hard life in commerce....Cheers, RickO
now that we have full obv/rev pics. i'd say both. a clashed die over a long period of time along with an lds die. poor thing still doesn't have any cracks or breaks. that thing was a workhorse.
yes, though not common.
nice pics, overlays and presentation.
haha yes I agree it has had a tought life,
even so I wanted to share the discover
Henri, From the French Riviera with love
Extreme late die state yes, but I am not convinced that a heavy die clash was involved. Looks like what is commonly called "ghosting."
When two dies come together, there is greater or lesser pressure on different areas of the planchet depending on whether there is part of the field there, which is high on the die, or the main design, which is depressed. When two areas of deep design oppose one another there is significantly less pressure there, which is why Jefferson nickels often have weak steps and Morgan dollars sometimes have weak ears and weak breast feathers.
Now, as Sir Newton said for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Where the obverse die imparts higher pressure on the planchet in one spot, that higher pressure is transmitted through the planchet to the reverse die, and vice versa. Over a long time, and these dies were used for a long time, that pressure can start to erode the reverse die with the rough design of the obverse image, and vice versa. It is rather common on cents of the 1940's, where you see the outline of Lincoln's head on the reverse, but little or no corresponding image on the obverse because the reverse has no significant central design.
TD
I agree with @CaptHenway The die is very worn as indicated by the visible radial flow lines still visible on a circulated coin and that you're seeing ghosting
Here is the www.error-ref.com explanation of Partial Indirect Die Transfer (Ghosting)
http://www.error-ref.com/?s=indirect+die+transfer
An excellent reference site. I highly recommend it to the OP.
thx a lot !
Henri, From the French Riviera with love
Worn dies I agree with that
Ghosting can be seen quite commonly Kennedy Half-Dollars.