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Question about a coin envelope.

Hello. I obtained a graded merchant token some time ago that included this envelope. I was wondering if the envelope belonged to Mr. Boyd or to a collector who obtained the token from him.

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    The upside down notation on the back seems to say O Earl lot.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,764 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "AU-55+" doesn't seem to be something that would have been a Boyd-era annotation.

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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Considering FCC Boyd passed away in 1958, I believe this would have contained a coin from his personal collection. The envelope itself was probably not from the collection of Mr Boyd, although I am not familiar with his handwriting.

    Fred (FCC) Boyd was a pretty famous numismatist in the early and mid 20th Century. I'm sure some other members here will be able to give you more information.

    QDB wrote a summary about him here
    [https://stacksbowers.com/News/Pages/Blogs.aspx?ArticleID=meet-fcc-boyd]


    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
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    truebloodtrueblood Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭

    In my opinion the style of writing and the type of ink does not scream 1950's or earlier.

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    Thanks very much!

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the link.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's an example of FCC Boyd's handwriting, although script cursive. Looks quite different.

    Letter is to EPN who he corresponded with for years.
    Lance.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Didn’t Ford buy Boyd’s estate? Look for examples of Ford’s writing.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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    ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 11, 2020 6:12PM

    Reminds me of library hand.
    It was used before typewriters, and sometimes later, to hand write card catalog cards.
    Often in all caps.
    The person who wrote it in 1958 possibly learned to write 50 years before that.
    It never resembles a person's normal penmanship but it is distinct if you can find another envelope.

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    See the word Gilt above
    Ford’s G somewhat resembled the letter S
    So I don’t see a match there
    We were friends over twenty years ago

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    bump

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are some samples of John J. Ford's writing I am posting for CaptainBlunt. Look at the R's. The OP's envelope was definitely written by Ford, presumably from the Boyd Estate as I surmised.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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    That is amazing. Thank you very much.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The amazing we do immediately. The impossible takes a little longer!
    :)

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.

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