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Dansco with Counterfeit Type Coins
braddick
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I am about half way through filling a Dansco with contemporary type and a few Daniel Carr modern replicas. I came upon this Lincoln cent and purchased it.
I am actually hoping it isn't genuine (!) as the seller did list it as a regular Lincoln cent.
Based on the seller's photos (the coin hasn't arrived yet) do you think there is a chance this is a contemporary counterfeit?
Fingers crossed it is!
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well i'm not accustomed to seeing lincs from this era, even vlds, that pitted. i've seen some wild colors on lincs, indians, large cents etc as copper reacts in some wild ways but this one, i'm like you, i'll go 50-50 as the central part, the ear/hair is questionable and one of the big tells for me on morgan counterfeits, especially blurry images.
i'll post a genuine 1915-s for some reason. the mm looks spot-on to me.
on a side-note. i looked at the full coinfacts image and this genuine 15-s has the same die chip in upper loop as the 09-s/09-s vdb. is there such a thing as a master date/mm punch? can't be coincidence.
I certainly hope it IS a counterfeit but, to my eye it looks like a badly corroded genuine coin.
Metal detector pick up, corroded but real......do hope your are right and i'm wrong....
Did you like the 1853 quarter?
bob
Love it!
Fits right in with other contemporary counterfeits within the book. Thanks!
I am glad it fits, good to hear.
bob
That is a tough one based on those pictures....However, I think it may be authentic, but pitted from time in the dirt...Cheers, RickO
Show your set, you never know what might be lying around.
now that you got it and are happy, i want to say it is also a bad thing as if someone was selling this willy nilly and they are selling others, since it doesn't comply with HPA, that means others may be getting ripped off if a seller has more of these and if it is truly a counterfeit, which i'll take your word for. just sayin'.
For what it's worth. This cent arrived today and sure enough, it is just a regular Lincoln cent with no attributes that would lead me to believe it isn't genuine.
What is the best Contemporary Counterfeit book available?
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
NOW i see. when you made this post you were talking about the quarter, not the cent. doh.
my previous comment is now moot.
Cool idea for an album. Sorry your cent is real!
I have mentioned it before as this thread in some iteration arrives every year or so . . .
A Credit Union President here in my home city dedicated himself to constructing a 7070 completely with counterfeit pieces. He succumbed to cancer perhaps 10 years ago, although I knew him well (he sold me me my first ever 'slabbed' coin -- a 1913 Lincoln cent in MS64 RB). I coached two of his sons and one daughter.
His desire was strictly to build a fun 7070 with entirely counterfeit coins. He built a relationship with a (since notoriously defunct) local shop, and was able to purchase from a 2x2 film slide box of counterfeits that the shop had put together through two generations. He learned a HUGE amount from the enterprise . . .specifically how easy it was to get key date counterfeits and how enormously challenging it was to get a counterfeit clad quarter, etc. The album was breathtaking in most cases . . . an AU Classic cent, smooth and hard early half cents, an S-VDB that was a neat struck (MM position 3) RB, stunningly toned Lib Seated dollars, a 1918/7-D Standing Lib quarter in XF, a seemingly perfect 1916-D Merc in AU53-55, and the most devastatingly perfect counterfeit . . . . . . a superb 1926-S Buff in a solid MS64(+???) struck so hard it looked like a proof. He was one of the original locators of the "embossed" mintmark Buffs . . . as they became publicly (or widely) known. THAT coin was ridiculously excellent . . . with just an imperceptible hint of rim work outside the mintmark.
He could find 20 fake 1916-D Mercs for every counterfeit Lincoln Memorial. He actually prized his contemporary counterfeits as the hardest things he had ever found.
No . . . I do not know the location of the album now . . . and his kids have now gone on to have their second generations come through my classes . . . .so pics are NOT possible.
But my memory remains.
Drunner