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1839 GA MC 8 reales ....can you identify why it detail graded?

bidaskbidask Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 5, 2020 4:27PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

Rare date !

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  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Scratches, environmental damage?

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @scubafuel said:
    Scratches, environmental damage?

    Can you be more specific by looking at the true view pic?

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    I give away money. I collect money.
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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2020 4:53AM

    Details for damage... are there rim issues? The piece looks somewhat misshapen.

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 23,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No idea. A good example of why I rarely buy coins based on pictures.

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    No idea. A good example of why I rarely buy coins based on pictures.

    I did that on this coin thankfully did not pay a lot .

    eBay someone from
    Russia

    Look at the obverse field about 10:30

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,642 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see obverse scratches 10-11 o'clock, not much else wrong with it.

  • dizzleccdizzlecc Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭

    Tough coin to find graded. Reverse looks ok. It would have to be on the obverse, top right or top left or maybe. It is a nice looking coin,

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The scratches are between the rays at upper left. The lower obverse rim area has that matte burnt look of early stage corrosion. But as MrE said, pics can be deceiving.

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 5, 2020 10:03PM

    The obverse looks fine, just no feathers on the eagle. On the reverse there are scratches parallel to the rays.

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whoops true. Not used to eagles on the obverse.

  • truebloodtrueblood Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2020 8:45AM

    The obv graffiti.
    But still a great great piece, I would have been very happy with her.:)

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The scratches between 10 and 12 o'clock extending beyond the Rays prevents a straight grade

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As far as I can tell it is the scratch/ graffiti between 10-12 extending beyond the rays

    The patina and toning is excellent and original.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the look of the coin and even though the scratches happened years ago and are somewhat hidden by natural patina as time passed, they impact the grade. Details is the most accurate opinion and outcome that best describes the coin

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bent and flattened?

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    Bent and flattened?

    No

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
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  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    I see obverse scratches 10-11 o'clock, not much else wrong with it.

    Except major negative eye appeal.

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @messydesk said:
    I see obverse scratches 10-11 o'clock, not much else wrong with it.

    Except major negative eye appeal.

    Not if you held it in hand!

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:

    @pruebas said:

    @messydesk said:
    I see obverse scratches 10-11 o'clock, not much else wrong with it.

    Except major negative eye appeal.

    Not if you held it in hand!

    I don’t care how rare it is. It doesn’t belong in your collection. Ditch it.

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @bidask said:

    @pruebas said:

    @messydesk said:
    I see obverse scratches 10-11 o'clock, not much else wrong with it.

    Except major negative eye appeal.

    Not if you held it in hand!

    I don’t care how rare it is. It doesn’t belong in your collection. Ditch it.

    It’s rare

    If I find another one I will let this one go

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:

    @pruebas said:

    @bidask said:

    @pruebas said:

    @messydesk said:
    I see obverse scratches 10-11 o'clock, not much else wrong with it.

    Except major negative eye appeal.

    Not if you held it in hand!

    I don’t care how rare it is. It doesn’t belong in your collection. Ditch it.

    It’s rare

    If I find another one I will let this one go

    It’s not that it’s circulated that I don’t like it. I think your (circulated) 1837-CaAM is a nice coin.

    The toning isn’t right. And it’s got a lot of little issues (staining, spotting, rim defects, planchet issues, scratching). The overall package doesn’t work (unlike the aforementioned 1837-CaAM)

    There’s a 55 and a 58 in the NGC Census. Why not wait for one of those rather than jumping all over “cheap” crap from eBay?

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The below coin is 100x nicer:

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:
    The below coin is 100x nicer:

    Thanks for letting me know🤓

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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