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Coin star find! Lincoln reverse die clash.

Coin_nut1977Coin_nut1977 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

Decent shape for circulation. About 70% visible. Hard to see in the pictures.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do see what you are referring to... Try an overlay (I do not know how to do them)..... sure looks like a die clash. Cheers, RickO

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What @ricko said.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maddieclashes.com has the overlay you can use. Nice find. Peace Roy

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  • Coin_nut1977Coin_nut1977 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I do see what you are referring to... Try an overlay (I do not know how to do them)..... sure looks like a die clash. Cheers, RickO

    Thanks ricko! Your very understanding to the new coin collectors out there! Very understanding by far. Some people dont invest in software on there phones. Some do! :) cheers!

  • Coin_nut1977Coin_nut1977 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 said:
    Maddieclashes.com has the overlay you can use. Nice find. Peace Roy

    Thanks Roy! You have my condolences! What a super positive man!

  • Coin_nut1977Coin_nut1977 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I do see what you are referring to... Try an overlay (I do not know how to do them)..... sure looks like a die clash. Cheers, RickO

    Me either!!!! lol. I'm still trying to figure out coin errors. an overlay has me stumped! haha!

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see it either

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 28, 2020 9:30PM

    Looks like ghosting (AKA, Progressive Indirect Design Transfer/PIDT), rather than a die clash. Check out the images on the link below - the first imaged example is a wheat cent. Basically, when coins are being struck, the hammer (obverse) die strikes with such force that a significant amount of force is transferred through the coin and into the reverse die. After many coins have been struck, enough force is given to the reverse die that it begins to impart a ghostly outline of Lincoln (in the case of a Lincoln cent).

    http://www.error-ref.com/progressive-indirect-design-transfer/

    This is a quote from the above webpage:

    "The cause of PIDT is straightforward. When the hammer die (obverse die) strikes the planchet, the force of the strike is transferred into and through the planchet and onto the opposing die (reverse or anvil die). Since the dies are slightly convex, the strongest force felt on the planchet is in the center of that planchet. However, in the case of the Lincoln cent, the center of the obverse die is incuse, so the area on the obverse die that experiences the first and strongest force is the field area immediately adjacent to Lincoln’s bust. Each strike transmits part of the force onto the opposing die. The area that transfers the most force onto the reverse die is the outline of Lincoln’s bust. This transferred force produces uneven metal flow in the reverse die, gradually creating a “ghost” image of Lincoln."

  • Coin_nut1977Coin_nut1977 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's all good! I usually can pin point a die clash! His back side of his head and his chin. It points me in that direction. Thanks for all the feedbacks, though.

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