1914-s buffalo - what do you think?

LanceNewmanOCC

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i've had successful transactions with this seller but i saw this buff and something didn't seem right but i let it run because i couldn't fault it. the 9 in the date is the only thing i could really pick on besides the overall look/color.

291fifth

If in doubt ... pass.

clarkbar04

The 9 and designers initial are Both pretty wonky.

coinbuf

Photos are out of focus so difficult to pinpoint anything.

gradeacoinsebay

Sometimes hard with photos but nothing looks too off about it to me but surfaces look cleaned

LanceNewmanOCC

@clarkbar04 said:
The 9 and designers initial are Both pretty wonky.

ty. i forgot the mention that. i check several dates on coinfacts and the F has a continuity of placement which does not appear to be in-line with this coin.

BuffaloIronTail

The reverse is one I've seen before. I made mention of it years ago as having an "Embedded" S which touches the "C" in CENT. The mintmark is also genuine, the same on that is on the 1909-S V.D.B. with the flaw.

That date and initial don't look right, the 9 and the placement of the initial look strange to me.

The 4 overlapping the 1 in the date also looks weird.

I don't know what to think of it.

Here's a pic of a different slabbed coin:

Pete

1Bufffan

I must agree I have never seen the #4 touch the #1 and also the #9 does in fact look questionable, the designers initial are under the left side of the crosslet in 4 are shown in "Buffalo Iron Tails" photo, it will be interesting to find out if it is Genuine. if it isn't it is a darn good "Fake". The reverse would "fool" me it looks to good to be a "fake"

LanceNewmanOCC

images enlarged and made clickable. forgot to do it earlier.

tyvm for the commentary. i squirmed over what to do about it and the concerns expressed echo my thoughts.

CaptHenway

@1Bufffan said:
I must agree I have never seen the #4 touch the #1 and also the #9 does in fact look questionable, the designers initial are under the left side of the crosslet in 4 are shown in "Buffalo Iron Tails" photo, it will be interesting to find out if it is Genuine. if it isn't it is a darn good "Fake". The reverse would "fool" me it looks to good to be a "fake"

A very telling point. Probably enough to condemn it.

LanceNewmanOCC

if it is a counterfeit, it is the first buff i've seen with that good of a mm.

toyz4geo

Does the right front hoof look a bit wonky as well?

Jimnight

@BuffaloIronTail said:
The reverse is one I've seen before. I made mention of it years ago as having an "Embedded" S which touches the "C" in CENT. The mintmark is also genuine, the same on that is on the 1909-S V.D.B. with the flaw.

That date and initial don't look right, the 9 and the placement of the initial look strange to me.

The 4 overlapping the 1 in the date also looks weird.

I don't know what to think of it.

Here's a pic of a different slabbed coin:

Pete

Excellent observation.

Nice pic too!