I had a buddy in the army stationed at Fort Huachuca in Arizona has a long military history that many people don’t know about he showed me the grave yard was really cool grave stones with Indian scouts and all kinds of military personnel from the 1800s
Like @Klif50 I also do a lot of genealogy work and try to find old family graves. These two graves are my grandmother’s brothers. I never met them or her as they both died in 1940 and she in 1963. I have inherited many of their things though and really wanted to see them when I was visiting Oklahoma one trip. We took a roadtrip up to Kansas to find them. I was probably the first person to say hi in 50+ years.
The bottom photo are all bits of Harold’s uniform that I inherited.
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The Texas State Cemetery is interesting to visit as well. A large number of Texas notables are buried there, from the early days up to modern times. Walking through, you can see the graves of Stephen F. Austin, John Conally, Ann Richards, J. Frank Dobie, Ralph Yarborough, Darrel K. Royal, Chris Kyle, and dead from the battle of San Jacinto (where Texas won its independence from Mexico) and the Civil War.
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Veep, I haven't yet been to Arlington but I made the trip to Gettysburg a little over 15 years ago. it was a very stirring experience, I couldn't help being overwhelmed by it all. to my way of thinking a trip to Gettysburg should be a pilgrimage that every American should make at least once.
I spent three days at Gettysburg and it could have easily been a couple of more. It is indeed a solemn place. Arlington was too. The changing of the guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, the precise alignment of the headstones, and the final resting places of so many famous and heroic, yet not so famous but nonetheless heroic patriots.
At Arlington, I had to hunt down the gravesite of Robert Todd Lincoln who is the only member of Lincoln’s immediate family not buried in Springfield, IL where I have visited several times.
I have done a lot of walking for Genealogy sake. I found dates, relatives and lost family members that I never knew about.
I often think about the times they lived in, and that leads me to associating them with the coins they used. I get very nostalgic when I think about that stuff.
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Some of the tombstones are works of art. They do not allows those at Forest Lawn in California except for the ones that were already there before the company took over some pre-existing cemeteries. A bronze plaque is all that is allowed. I can see how that makes it easier to maintain. When you walk into a Forest Lawn Cemetery, you will notice the flat expanse of green grass and orderly look of the place. The endowment fund that one pays into when purchasing a plot takes care of all the maintenance into perpetuity. Yes, a one time payment covers it for generations to come.
I often wonder who still visits the gravesite of someone that died in 1915, for example? People move around a lot and it is not a given that the family of the deceased would even be nearby after so many generations. The cemetery has told me that they have sold plots decades ago with advance payment and are never used, but they have to keep them as is and cannot resell them. I did not know that was even a problem since they can try locating next of kin, who would actually of right to the plot if it can be proven that the original purchaser is deceased. Kind of reminds me of gift cards being sold by retailers and how many of them never get used.
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Indeed I have. I have in particular been to many of the famous cemetaire en Paris. Seen Jim Morrison's grave. Several times. Seen where the big revolutionary massacre was. In a cemataire. Seen the graves of very famous french philosophers. Why? Well, my wife is french. Also been to Friedhof Wien St. Marx in Vienna, where Mozart, and many other famous composers are. Together........ But where I really want to go? Bon Scott. In Perth................. Need to do the pilgrimage.
Bergen Belsen is one gravesite (cemetery)... former concentration camp I walked through. I remember it as being hard to take. . While stationed in Germany , it was on the bucket list of "need to pay respect to" places. These mounds held tens of thousands of prisoners of war, innocent civilians, etc.,
That is why I said I preferred "driving by" , earlier.
I've passed by some during my hikes in various places. Mostly I would call them graveyards or even just gravesites rather than cemeteries. Usually just old headstones, not always legible, and footstones. No statues usually, so I can still blink safely.
@Aegis3 said:
I've passed by some during my hikes in various places. Mostly I would call them graveyards or even just gravesites rather than cemeteries. Usually just old headstones, not always legible, and footstones. No statues usually, so I can still blink safely.
I've been to the catacombs in Kiev. There are several Monks on display. Man folks were small back then. Unless you are short you have to walk through crouched over the whole time. I don't think any of the Monks on display were over 5 feet tall. If skeletons bug you that place will give you the heeby geebies!
@DCW said:
Check out the catacombs in Paris. The ultimate walk through in the macabre
@amwldcoin said:
I've been to the catacombs in Kiev. There are several Monks on display. Man folks were small back then. Unless you are short you have to walk through crouched over the whole time. I don't think any of the Monks on display were over 5 feet tall. If skeletons bug you that place will give you the heeby geebies!
@DCW said:
Check out the catacombs in Paris. The ultimate walk through in the macabre
I wish I could post photos of Paris, but Google it. Miles of bones piled up under the city. Some quite artistically placed.
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I don't walk them but I do jog through the main one in town when on a weekend long run. It is peaceful but honestly the main thought going through my head is I am glad I am not a permanent resident there (yet).
I do also run across the occasional family plot while out in the woods. My property even borders an old abandoned cemetery road, I've been through the cemetery up there but the markers are so weathered I can't even make out the dates.
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I used to walk in one when I lived in Massachusetts. Two graves really stood out.
One was a Civil War soldier who was killed at the Battle of Antietam. I remember the name, Randal Holbrook. Since there is a Holbrook, Massachusetts, the family may have been of some importance and could have afforded a large marker. According to the stone, he was wounded on the day of the battle, September 17, 1862 and died the following day. Antietam was the single bloodiest day of the war.
The second was for a young boy who died at age four. Someone, probably the parents, placed toys all over the grave site apparently on Christmas and on his birthday. It was really sad that they just couldn’t let go. By this time, he would have been in his mid teens.
Seeing the DiMagio resting place reminds me of the cemetary where my parents are buried. There was baseball pitcher, Chris Short, who had few good seasons with the Phillies. He died young and there is a large monument there for him.
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At church today (Bethany Christian Church, Dallas, GA) one of our Girl Scouts gave a talk on her Gold Project (like the Eagle Scout Project for boys). We have a large cemetery plot on one side of the church and another across the road. The church has been there since the 1860s and there are over 1000 graves in the two sites. She flew drones over the plots photographed them, and then mapped them out. She divided the plots into sections and then visited each grave, documented it, and cleaned the headstone. She, with help from her father, set many of them back up, and uncovered some that had long since fallen over and had been buried. She then did a searchable spreadsheet for each grave along with interesting facts about the people when she could find them. Very impressive job for a young lady. The talk was well attended (to my surprise) and I found there were quite a few people involved in their family trees.
I suspect the plots will be getting a lot more visitors soon.
What happens to all the items left at the gravesites? I am not talking about the flowers, but sometimes, toys, artifacts, coins, and other items that may have had meaning to the deceased are left on the tombstone or grave plaque by loved ones or admirers. What happens to those objects?
"So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve
We lived in Paris from 2016 to 2018. Our apartment was only a few blocks from the Montemarte cemetery. We visited quite often as well as several other cemeteries in Paris proper. They are amazing and draw tourists from all over the world. Jim Morrison is buried in the Père Lachaise Cemetery several miles from our house in the 20th arrondissement . There were always large tour groups meandering though the grounds.
The Jewish Cemetery in Prague was very macabre. Since there was very little land provided for burials, they stacked the bodies in vertical layers. As a result, the ground level sits 15 or 20 feet above the street level.
We spent several somber hours at the American Cemetery in Normandy. The playing of taps during the lowering of the flag was too much for my normal stoic personality. There was a stark contrast with the American Cemetery and the German Cemetery several miles away as it was filled with dark stones, some containing the bodies of boys as young as 15.
I will search my archives and post some somber pictures.
When i was a kid i would go to an old farm cellar hole in the woods that had the family cemetery. There were three or four generations of the family from the 1700's and ten or twelve small stones with simply initials that were for the small children. Would go there when I was pissed or things were going bad.
I have not but I do use the find a grave website a lot for research on token issuers. It can be very helpful in learning more about the individuals who issued the tokens that we collect.
@3stars said:
In the history of humans there have been approximately 65 billion people, but there are only around 800 million marked graves. So 64.2 billion unaccounted for corpses out there somewhere buried (but mostly decomposed)
The Population Reference Bureau estimates that about 107 billion people have ever lived. But you point is valid - there are a lot of unaccounted for corpses.
Thought I would toss this one in. Back in the old, young, early teenage driving days my friends and I heard about a haunted graveyard. If you went out there at the right time of night a ghost would shine a light out of the graveyard at you. We were a partying bunch and finally decided to check it out.
This grave yard was on the edge of an area being developed...so it was kindda isolated. The first time we finally saw the light we hauled ass! The jabs started and then after a week we decided to go back. This time we were braver. We actually walked into the graveyard when we saw the light. We didn't get far enough before we got creeped out again and hauled ass. Long story short...after a few more trips...we figured out the mystery. There was a streetlight that was catching a piece of mica in a headstone at just the right angle to beam a flashlight strong beam of light out towards the road!
Dickey Betts of the Allman Brothers used to play his guitar in a cemetery. The Song " In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed" was the name on a headstone he noticed while composing the melody
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Holy Cross Cemetery, Colma, California
I have some relatives residing at this cemetery.
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I had a buddy in the army stationed at Fort Huachuca in Arizona has a long military history that many people don’t know about he showed me the grave yard was really cool grave stones with Indian scouts and all kinds of military personnel from the 1800s
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Like @Klif50 I also do a lot of genealogy work and try to find old family graves. These two graves are my grandmother’s brothers. I never met them or her as they both died in 1940 and she in 1963. I have inherited many of their things though and really wanted to see them when I was visiting Oklahoma one trip. We took a roadtrip up to Kansas to find them. I was probably the first person to say hi in 50+ years.
The bottom photo are all bits of Harold’s uniform that I inherited.
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The Texas State Cemetery is interesting to visit as well. A large number of Texas notables are buried there, from the early days up to modern times. Walking through, you can see the graves of Stephen F. Austin, John Conally, Ann Richards, J. Frank Dobie, Ralph Yarborough, Darrel K. Royal, Chris Kyle, and dead from the battle of San Jacinto (where Texas won its independence from Mexico) and the Civil War.
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Here are a few shots I took at Arlington and Gettysburg.
Veep, I haven't yet been to Arlington but I made the trip to Gettysburg a little over 15 years ago. it was a very stirring experience, I couldn't help being overwhelmed by it all. to my way of thinking a trip to Gettysburg should be a pilgrimage that every American should make at least once.
Today’s walk at The Grove Street Cemetery
I spent three days at Gettysburg and it could have easily been a couple of more. It is indeed a solemn place. Arlington was too. The changing of the guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, the precise alignment of the headstones, and the final resting places of so many famous and heroic, yet not so famous but nonetheless heroic patriots.
At Arlington, I had to hunt down the gravesite of Robert Todd Lincoln who is the only member of Lincoln’s immediate family not buried in Springfield, IL where I have visited several times.
The gravesite of Jules Verne in Amiens, France.
Lincoln’s Tomb. Bronze by St. Gaudens
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It ain't that bad.
I have done a lot of walking for Genealogy sake. I found dates, relatives and lost family members that I never knew about.
I often think about the times they lived in, and that leads me to associating them with the coins they used. I get very nostalgic when I think about that stuff.
Pete
Some of the tombstones are works of art. They do not allows those at Forest Lawn in California except for the ones that were already there before the company took over some pre-existing cemeteries. A bronze plaque is all that is allowed. I can see how that makes it easier to maintain. When you walk into a Forest Lawn Cemetery, you will notice the flat expanse of green grass and orderly look of the place. The endowment fund that one pays into when purchasing a plot takes care of all the maintenance into perpetuity. Yes, a one time payment covers it for generations to come.
I often wonder who still visits the gravesite of someone that died in 1915, for example? People move around a lot and it is not a given that the family of the deceased would even be nearby after so many generations. The cemetery has told me that they have sold plots decades ago with advance payment and are never used, but they have to keep them as is and cannot resell them. I did not know that was even a problem since they can try locating next of kin, who would actually of right to the plot if it can be proven that the original purchaser is deceased. Kind of reminds me of gift cards being sold by retailers and how many of them never get used.
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Indeed I have. I have in particular been to many of the famous cemetaire en Paris. Seen Jim Morrison's grave. Several times. Seen where the big revolutionary massacre was. In a cemataire. Seen the graves of very famous french philosophers. Why? Well, my wife is french. Also been to Friedhof Wien St. Marx in Vienna, where Mozart, and many other famous composers are. Together........ But where I really want to go? Bon Scott. In Perth................. Need to do the pilgrimage.
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Check out the catacombs in Paris. The ultimate walk through in the macabre
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Bergen Belsen is one gravesite (cemetery)... former concentration camp I walked through. I remember it as being hard to take. . While stationed in Germany , it was on the bucket list of "need to pay respect to" places. These mounds held tens of thousands of prisoners of war, innocent civilians, etc.,
That is why I said I preferred "driving by" , earlier.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergen-Belsen_concentration_camp
I've passed by some during my hikes in various places. Mostly I would call them graveyards or even just gravesites rather than cemeteries. Usually just old headstones, not always legible, and footstones. No statues usually, so I can still blink safely.
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Not necessarily. @Regulated and I have walked cemeteries looking for pioneer gold people.
Here's a photo I took for Albrecht Küner, designer of the Vaquero Horseman pioneer gold coins from George C. Baldwin and Frederick Kohler.
I think I've seen this in some TV shows.
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Sally Sparrow could appreciate that.
I've been to the catacombs in Kiev. There are several Monks on display. Man folks were small back then. Unless you are short you have to walk through crouched over the whole time. I don't think any of the Monks on display were over 5 feet tall. If skeletons bug you that place will give you the heeby geebies!
I wish I could post photos of Paris, but Google it. Miles of bones piled up under the city. Some quite artistically placed.
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"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I don't walk them but I do jog through the main one in town when on a weekend long run. It is peaceful but honestly the main thought going through my head is I am glad I am not a permanent resident there (yet).
I do also run across the occasional family plot while out in the woods. My property even borders an old abandoned cemetery road, I've been through the cemetery up there but the markers are so weathered I can't even make out the dates.
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No. An unpleasant reminder of our mortality.
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I used to walk in one when I lived in Massachusetts. Two graves really stood out.
One was a Civil War soldier who was killed at the Battle of Antietam. I remember the name, Randal Holbrook. Since there is a Holbrook, Massachusetts, the family may have been of some importance and could have afforded a large marker. According to the stone, he was wounded on the day of the battle, September 17, 1862 and died the following day. Antietam was the single bloodiest day of the war.
The second was for a young boy who died at age four. Someone, probably the parents, placed toys all over the grave site apparently on Christmas and on his birthday. It was really sad that they just couldn’t let go. By this time, he would have been in his mid teens.
Seeing the DiMagio resting place reminds me of the cemetary where my parents are buried. There was baseball pitcher, Chris Short, who had few good seasons with the Phillies. He died young and there is a large monument there for him.
At church today (Bethany Christian Church, Dallas, GA) one of our Girl Scouts gave a talk on her Gold Project (like the Eagle Scout Project for boys). We have a large cemetery plot on one side of the church and another across the road. The church has been there since the 1860s and there are over 1000 graves in the two sites. She flew drones over the plots photographed them, and then mapped them out. She divided the plots into sections and then visited each grave, documented it, and cleaned the headstone. She, with help from her father, set many of them back up, and uncovered some that had long since fallen over and had been buried. She then did a searchable spreadsheet for each grave along with interesting facts about the people when she could find them. Very impressive job for a young lady. The talk was well attended (to my surprise) and I found there were quite a few people involved in their family trees.
I suspect the plots will be getting a lot more visitors soon.
What happens to all the items left at the gravesites? I am not talking about the flowers, but sometimes, toys, artifacts, coins, and other items that may have had meaning to the deceased are left on the tombstone or grave plaque by loved ones or admirers. What happens to those objects?
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We lived in Paris from 2016 to 2018. Our apartment was only a few blocks from the Montemarte cemetery. We visited quite often as well as several other cemeteries in Paris proper. They are amazing and draw tourists from all over the world. Jim Morrison is buried in the Père Lachaise Cemetery several miles from our house in the 20th arrondissement . There were always large tour groups meandering though the grounds.
The Jewish Cemetery in Prague was very macabre. Since there was very little land provided for burials, they stacked the bodies in vertical layers. As a result, the ground level sits 15 or 20 feet above the street level.
We spent several somber hours at the American Cemetery in Normandy. The playing of taps during the lowering of the flag was too much for my normal stoic personality. There was a stark contrast with the American Cemetery and the German Cemetery several miles away as it was filled with dark stones, some containing the bodies of boys as young as 15.
I will search my archives and post some somber pictures.
Yes. Generally speaking though, it's not the happiest of times.
The St. Louis cemetery was a film location used in the film Easy Rider (Peter Fonda’s LSD trip sequence)
When i was a kid i would go to an old farm cellar hole in the woods that had the family cemetery. There were three or four generations of the family from the 1700's and ten or twelve small stones with simply initials that were for the small children. Would go there when I was pissed or things were going bad.
I have not but I do use the find a grave website a lot for research on token issuers. It can be very helpful in learning more about the individuals who issued the tokens that we collect.
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The Population Reference Bureau estimates that about 107 billion people have ever lived. But you point is valid - there are a lot of unaccounted for corpses.
Thought I would toss this one in. Back in the old, young, early teenage driving days my friends and I heard about a haunted graveyard. If you went out there at the right time of night a ghost would shine a light out of the graveyard at you. We were a partying bunch and finally decided to check it out.
This grave yard was on the edge of an area being developed...so it was kindda isolated. The first time we finally saw the light we hauled ass! The jabs started and then after a week we decided to go back. This time we were braver. We actually walked into the graveyard when we saw the light. We didn't get far enough before we got creeped out again and hauled ass. Long story short...after a few more trips...we figured out the mystery. There was a streetlight that was catching a piece of mica in a headstone at just the right angle to beam a flashlight strong beam of light out towards the road!
Dickey Betts of the Allman Brothers used to play his guitar in a cemetery. The Song " In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed" was the name on a headstone he noticed while composing the melody