PCGS Rattlers
Coinmandan
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Anybody else into rattlers , and OGH PCGS older stuff ?
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Coinmandan
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Bunch of people here collect them it’s a challenge to put a set together of just old holders
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
Here's an entire thread dedicated to OGHs with 319 comments. I am sure there is a rattler thread somewhere.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1036310/please-post-a-nice-coin-in-a-pcgs-ogh-old-green-label-holder
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
If I recall correctly, the rules of that thread specifically asked for no rattlers to be posted. Perhaps they were anyway or perhaps one or two were before the guidelines were put into place.
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Correct.
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
I’m not particularly “in” to them, but I have a few and really enjoy them. My kids get a kick out of them and the rattling.
I have a set of old holders in my sig line.
My Collection of Old Holders
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Nice!
I like them all.
Some really nice old Buffs here.... I really do not pay attention to the slabs other than which TPG they are....I am not sure what some of my old holders are.... I just know I have nice coins...
in slabs and raw....Cheers, RickO
An advantage of the rattlers as well as other older holders is you know the coin was not dipped or boinked right before slabbing and will not be changing right after you purchase it. You can assume coins in these older holders are usually stable at this point.
Agree with the above comments about coins in OGH/Rattlers being stable and not messed with. Here are mine
Some really great coins in there sir! Will you share some pics of the vintage holders too?
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Thanks you very much, its nice that NGC allows me to put some of my old holder coins on display together (one of my peeves with the registry here), but even there I am limited and cannot show all the old holders I have. Unfortunately my photos are awful (most of the good photos I show were taken by Mark Goodman) so I have never really tried to take many slab shots. And as the coins are at the SDB I do not have the access to take any of my poor shots at the moment. I did post one or two in the OGH thread but here are two slab shots I have, one I took and one was by the member here that I bought the coin from on the BST.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
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I love the look of that Peace dollar.
Like the old rattlers and all first generation holders. Plus I also collect out of business holders and have over 75 different companies.
I have 438 rattlers some rare like my 1893-S Morgan and my 1795 half dollar, but most of the rest are common.
I have a serial number run of 10 1881-S Morgan dollars, along with a nice grading set of rattlers AU-58 thru MS-66 also for the 1881-S Morgan.
Here is a link to my set on the PCGS Registry set.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/first-generation-holders/rjp-rattler-collection/1309
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I have a few of the older holders which I value. One I don't have is a David Hall slab as of yet
Did David Hall use slabs? I've seen his flips which are heat sealed but they aren't slabs.
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Ok I stand corrected on the topic. I srill keep an eye out for them
I like 'em:
I do too and pick them up, when I can.
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i have a few tucked away
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Very nice, thanks! It guess a lot of the old rattlers earn a CAC green or even gold, which seems to me like one of the great things about CAC: it lets collectors keep coins in these cool old holders but grade them at modern standards when the slab may be under graded.
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That is one of the great features of CAC for sure, however I would temper the thought that "a lot" of the rattlers out there will bean or go gold. There is a subset of old holders rather they be rattlers or OGH holders that have been held and sold between collectors; imo those coins are often PQ and have a good chance of receiving a bean. Then there are those that continue to be sold from dealer to dealer looking for an end buyer; those coins have a slim to no chance of receiving a bean as those are the coins that are not PQ.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Gotcha. I guess you could say that the ones passed from dealer to dealer have "bean around the block"
Would you say that most coins above a certain grade/value that have been sold recently have been submitted to CAC, and so if they have no bean they've already been seen?
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Many people believe this and the theory is somewhat valid, however I do not automatically make that assumption. If I see a coin that looks nice but does not sport the bean and lets say the value is $1K to maybe $10K, in that range I would wonder has it or not. But that would not be a deal killer if I like the coin, and I don't see any issues (obviously easer when in hand vs photos) then as long as the price is not out of line to me I would certainly buy it if I want it. Over 10K is out of my range so I don't even look at or concern myself with that end of the market as to what is or is not beaned. Under $1K is all over the place, I've sent coins that are only worth $100 and even a few worth less to CAC as learning tools. But then again lots of people will not want to spend the money and try for a bean unless the coin is worth at least $250, $500 or whatever number someone has decided. And to be fair as a collector submitter I only pay for those that pass, where a dealer pays pass or fail so I understand the reason dealers often set a price that is financially prudent to them.
At the end of the day I like the extra assurance the bean brings but unlike some I do not have to have a bean, or be in a specific plastic, or insert whatever qualifier you like in order to purchase a coin.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Very interesting! At $15/coin for your price range it seems like a small fee to pay for coins in the $500+ range and even those below if the next higher grade brings a premium. Do you think CAC will ever bean slabs other than the big 2?
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If your coin rattles it will have rim friction and could downgrade...... beware.
Doubtful.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
I have been working on a type set of coins in rattlers. It is starting to get harder to find some types of coins, but I still have enough “easy” ones to get like a 1/2 cent and large cent for example that I can not totally bust my coin budget. Feel free to check me on instagram with the same username @csanotes. Or search google or the pcgs set registry for “Strictly rattler type set”. Some of the harder to find ones I have like the Olympic commems don’t have a slot in the registry set I have setup. But you’ll get the idea. Cheers! Any questions or comments ask away and I’ll try to help out if I can. Jonathan
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My set wouldn't be nearly the same without your help, Jonathan!
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Link to My Registry Set.
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-specialty-sets/washington-quarters-complete-variety-set-circulation-strikes-1932-1964/publishedset/78469
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This is the only rattler I currently own. I think it's good for the grade but not something that will upgrade. Not even worth sending to CAC, although I'm not currently a member there. No idea what VAM it is. Has rusted dies for sure but also has the clash from lip to chin and two rust pits above the eagle's beak. Probably not a significant VAM in any case.
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Hello R/ @KindaNewish My pleasure for sure. It’s nice when you know you’re crazy, and someone else comes along who is right there in the same league of passion and interest! Haha. There are still plenty of rattlers to go around. Tho some of the harder to find varieties aint getting any easier to find. I have zero worries and can wait for an awesome $20 Saint with a cac sticker for example-plenty still alive. Whereas a $5 Indian in ms63 or higher is quite the different golden coined comrade. Thankfully I saw one last week on ebay and was thrilled to overpay for it! Haha! Enjoy the last bits of summer.
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