Options
What would you grade this? 1884 CC Morgan
CalifornianKing
Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭✭
It graded MS64 but I think it's a 65 or at least a 64+. 
3
CalifornianKing
Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭✭
CalifornianKing
Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭✭
CalifornianKing
Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭✭
Comments
Properly graded at 64.....not a chance at a 5.
To much chatter on the check and the field in front of the face for a 65. I think 64 is appropriate.
ms 64 nice morgan as well
64 is right, too many marks for a 65, if the cheek was cleaner then 64+
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
It's certainly nice and a solid 64 to me. Very creamy luster in the pic. I can see why it graded 64 and I can see why it could have done a bit better. But, as stated by others, the marks on the cheek, neck, below the ear, and in front of the face are pretty key focal points, so on balance, I think PCGS got it right. I'll bet the marks on the point of the neck are pretty clear and ugly under a glass. When I get a coin back from our hosts that surprises me, I generally come around, at least to an understanding of our host's logic. If I don't, I resubmit.
Tom
I agree with 4. Way too much chatter in prime focal areas for a 5.
Professional Numismatist. "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
64/64+
It is a solid 64, I think it could go for 64+ but hey that's grading for you. Their only human,... OR ARE THEY??!
Frosty 64. Has a GSA look to it.
100% Positive BST transactions
64.
Solid 64.
No chance at a 65.
What gave it away? The bag marks?
64 is spot on.
64 seems like a accurate grade. Theres alot of chatter on the face
HAPPY COLLECTING
If only your 84-CC was as nice as this beauty with the heavy die striations across the cheek, a mushy strike for an 85-CC, and the chatter all over the face, perhaps yours could have graded a 65 and gotten that silly sticker thing to boot.
Your hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need it.
MS-64. Outside chance of MS-65. Nice pick.
I guess I'm a little against the norm here but I agree with your assessment and think the coin could 65. It's certainly a strong 64 if not.
Solid 64.
BHNC #248 … 108 and counting.
4 max
I think it deserves a plus. I have seen marred coins like this in 65 holders. I'm not endorsing that grade though.
The TPGs are usually lenient with CCs.
Here are some ratty PCGS 65s (the last one is a 65+):
I will agree with the 64 grade.... too many marks in the field and face....Cheers, RickO
I'll wager 64, a creamy white gem for sure. Nearly 85% of the original mintage was released in the early 70's during the Treasury release.
I also agree with the 64 grade, but it's a nice 64!
My YouTube Channel
I wouldn't argue at 64+, the surfaces are quite attractive. Too many marks for a 65 though.
Collector, occasional seller
I'm probably going to get smacked for saying this but in my opinion the only difference between a 64, 64+ and 65 is the day it was sent in for grading.
it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide
This is my MS65 Carson City for comparison.
This looks like a very nice example of a 65 to me. Could also see this one getting a +
Yep, I'm good at 64 also.
My Original Song Written to my late wife-"Plus other original music by me"
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8A11CC8CC6093D80
https://n1m.com/bobbysmith1
Might get a CAC if you send it in.
Lustre looks amazing, 64+. Maybe a bump to 65.
What would be the point?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
It does matter to some, should it or not is somewhat irrelevant. A number of members here have made statements that they will only buy CAC beaned coins, so if the op wants to sell having a bean could help. And if by chance it were to receive a gold bean it will really help.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
If he ever wishes to sell it, it would expand the pool of buyers. You won't believe the number of times I have heard collectors ask whether an inexpensive coin has been to CAC.
Mighty fine 1892CC!
100% Positive BST transactions
It would expand the pool of potential buyers. However, there are submission and postage costs involved and in the case of a coin of that date, grade and price level, the number of potential buyers is more than large enough without a CAC sticker.
If you want a larger pool of buyers, it would be much easier and less costly to lower the asking price.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
FYI, I just did a check of the Great Collections auction archive for PCGS MS64 84-CC dollars. It appears that a CAC sticker adds essentially zero value to this issue in MS64, so @MFeld is correct.