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Why did PCGS make “gold foil” Ultra High Reliefs ?

bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

“Gold Foil “ ??

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 22, 2020 3:58PM

    PCGS didn’t make any High Reliefs - “Ultra”, “Gold Foil” or otherwise.

    😉

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  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your answer is contained within the question.

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    PCGS didn’t make any High Reliefs - “Ultra”, “Gold Foil” or otherwise.

    😉

    the cert :) ?

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    maybe it automatically means its a PL

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Same reason they did it for the Eliasberg 1913 Liberty nickel?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,240 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:
    maybe it automatically means its a PL

    No. It's just a fancy label. If it were proof like, the grade would be MS70PL.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice looking coins and pictures.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 22, 2020 5:46PM

    @messydesk said:
    They made them so that people would pay extra for the labels, and then the people who later bought the coins would pay extra to have them reholdered with a normal label.

    The 1913 nickel was reholdered, but into a another special label, and slab.

  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,577 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But would the nickel CAC again?

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They may have done it because they had extra foil inserts inventoried and this was a logical way to get rid of them. I write this because I sent in one of the first, if not the first, batch of Canadian gold from the 2012-2013 RCM sale and PCGS asked me if they could go with the gold foil insert until they produced a custom insert for the pieces. I told them to go ahead and they holdered 100+ coin for me with the gold insert and then immediately switched to their multi-colored insert. See images below of how mine were holdered (top) and how later coins were holdered-


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  • philographerphilographer Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    See images below of how mine were holdered (top) and how later coins were holdered-


    The first coin is also labeled correctly. The second coin is a $5 gold, but identified as a $10 on the label. 😉

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Label colors, slab generation, stickers.... Are there any coin collectors left out there? :D;) I just focus on the coins... but collecting is a human focus, and there is not limit on the things that attract human collecting interests. Have fun everyone....Cheers, RickO

  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think one of my customers saddle ridge coins has gold foil label

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,526 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No one yet?.. I'll do it then.

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 24, 2020 7:17AM

    @TomB said:
    They may have done it because they had extra foil inserts inventoried and this was a logical way to get rid of them. I write this because I sent in one of the first, if not the first, batch of Canadian gold from the 2012-2013 RCM sale and PCGS asked me if they could go with the gold foil insert until they produced a custom insert for the pieces. I told them to go ahead and they holdered 100+ coin for me with the gold insert and then immediately switched to their multi-colored insert. See images below of how mine were holdered (top) and how later coins were holdered-

    thanks for that. i wondered if they were created for the saddle ridge hoard circa feb 2013, as i think it was the first time i recalled seeing a gold foil insert.

    a side note, it is odd, now i see this it makes me think of the pcgs generations threads and how i don't recall seeing insert variations inserted into the timeline. ya, i know trakcking those would about drive a person mad but surely there are a few individuals that either have done or are up to that...

    @bidask

    i think the answer is probably simple. gold coin, gold foil insert. it is what i thought when i first saw it. it would make even more sense if the gold foil was introduced the first year of the UHR.

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