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1951 roosevelt for big money

davids5104davids5104 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭✭
edited July 20, 2020 6:56AM in U.S. Coin Forum

https://www.greatcollections.com/merch.php?id=853268

I was a losing bid on this lot, but was surprised when I saw last evening what this coin went for. It has nice color, but I was surprised. Am I missing it as a variety?

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  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I looked at that one early in the week. It’s pretty, but I must be missing the same thing you are.
    I guess it’s not tooo far above PCGS retail for a + (which it’s not graded at). There apparently were two people two viewed it as worth that. I hope one is really happy today and I assume one is not.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I went as far as checking the Cherrypickers Guide for the 1951. I didn't see anything.

    I think when it comes to the grade + toning and the luster on this dime ... bidders love this stuff and will pay.

    Just my opinion.

  • Rob41281Rob41281 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I tried making a few strong bids on it before dropping out at $300. I definitely think it ends up in at least a 7+ holder and maybe a couple bidders thought it has a chance at an 8?

  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 909 ✭✭✭✭

    I think a lesson was learned when they graded dimes MS 68 with obvious hits. this one looks relative mark free with nice original tone, a solid coin in my book.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,372 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Many people now feel that the rattler/OGH holders have been picked over so attention is being paid to the solid blue and even the blue fade holders by those looking for upgrade contenders. I don't know if this one falls into that category but its possible.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did not bid on the coin, but my experience indicates to me that the 1951 issue is not as often found with attractive toning as something like the 1951-S, so perhaps that had something to do with it. Alternatively, the coin appears to be covered with pretty strong die polish lines, which might make some think it could get into a PCGS PL holder (if they now offer that for Roosevelt dimes) and then it would be worth significantly more.

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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    Many people now feel that the rattler/OGH holders have been picked over so attention is being paid to the solid blue and even the blue fade holders by those looking for upgrade contenders. I don't know if this one falls into that category but its possible.

    It's in a recent vintage holder. I really like the toning, especially for a 51P (which is a tough date for nice color), but I almost never pay up big for upgrade candidates based solely on photos. I watched, but didn't bid.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @coinbuf said:
    Many people now feel that the rattler/OGH holders have been picked over so attention is being paid to the solid blue and even the blue fade holders by those looking for upgrade contenders. I don't know if this one falls into that category but its possible.

    It's in a recent vintage holder. I really like the toning, especially for a 51P (which is a tough date for nice color), but I almost never pay up big for upgrade candidates based solely on photos. I watched, but didn't bid.

    You're right that it's a hard date with vibrant colour.
    Most are brownish/orange/grey with subdued luster.
    Once in a while you will see a flashy white one with golden/yellow/orange rims but that's about it.
    I bid on this one but dropped out when I thought the profit in it was gone.

  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 20, 2020 1:49PM

    It sold for a bit over 67+ money, according to the PCGS price guide. I did not look up auction history or anything else. That does not seem unusual for a coin that a few people want to engage in a bidding war over. That said, it seems like a big gamble based on the photos provided. The amount of carbon spotting through "BERT" that has eaten through the luster layer, along with possible carbon at the rim at 4:30-8:30 on the obverse seems to be quite limiting for the coin. There's a possible carbon spot on the neck and up in the hair. Some of the color is decent but it isn't magical by any stretch. It certainly isn't FB/FT either. I think the coin is okay but would not have been for me.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice dime

  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:
    Here's the 1951 in my Registry set, also graded MS67. I paid about a fifth of what the Sunset coin went for, but to be fair, I don't think mine has as much upgrade potential.

    Jason,

    You'd be crazy not to submit your 51 multiple times for upgrade. That's a solid + coin, or better.

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  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davids5104 said:
    https://www.greatcollections.com/merch.php?id=853268

    I was a losing bid on this lot, but was surprised when I saw last evening what this coin went for. It has nice color, but I was surprised. Am I missing it as a variety?

    David

    This will end up in a + holder.

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  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭

    I agree on your coin being a good shot a +. All you have to lose is a fee!!!

    Dan
  • Felt that coin was undergraded, not a 68 but worthy of a 67+
    was an underbidder as well.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 9, 2020 9:39AM

    It is a very nice piece.

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,968 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looked at the bid history. Bidder # 9 went big early. How big? We may never know ...

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