Coin came back from PCGS not in a holder 1928 Hawaiian 50c
kuwegg57
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So I placed it in one.
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Now just stamp copy on it somewhere.
bob
Why would someone bother to counterfeit that?
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It needs a neck tattoo to be Raider Fan Approved! RFA...
did you see the links a few years back from alibaba that showed them faking common date lincs? no holds barred in this world...
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Can you share your reason for placing it in a holder? Educational tool? Cheers, RickO
Is this a serious question?
It's a very expensive coin and a key date.
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I purchased this coin about 30 years ago for $800 raw as a Gem BU. Only about 10000 were minted and after receiving this as a counterfiet I was the high bidder for a MS65 PCGS for $2000+.
It's a nice coin. I can't take nice photos with my cellphone. When I compared it with the MS65 that I recently aquired you can really see the difference. The lettering on the genuine is sharper than the counterfeit.
If I squint just right, he kinda looks like Kenny "the snake" Stabler. Peace Roy
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Send it to ICG to get the yellow counterfeit insert.
If you bought it 30 yrs ago it is not a typical Chinese counterfeit.
A good educational piece. I would do as @Zoins suggests.
So what do you do with a counterfeit coin? You really cant sell it... Whats next?
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Nice job
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Bad transactions with : nobody to date
Sorry to hear ......Raw Hawaiian's can be a little scary.......
@kuwegg57
Nice job
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Bad transactions with : nobody to date
That is why you always use protection errr PCGS
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
I know next to nothing about commems and will freely admit it.
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Sure you can. It happens all the time. Some documented fakes are worth much more than the originals (such as that $1000 Henning nickel that sold on eBay last month).
Aloha nui loa !!! 😥
Agree. You can sell it as long as you don't misrepresent it as being a genuine coin.
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So, what else did you buy 30 years ago from that particular person? Could there be other pigs in the poke? Peace Roy
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I find this thread fascinating! So what would happen if you sent the coin to NGC?
They would also body bag it for being a fake. What did you think would happen?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
A.... They might net grade it..
Are you joking? NGC is very good at detecting counterfeits.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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i hope if you go to some shows/shops you take this with you. i've been at shows/shops when people have brought various forgeries and shared them whether the item(s) be in a person's pocket or their case.
i've also carried many with me to show n tell.
there may or may have not been a few times when walking into a shop, besides hello, the first words out of my mouth are, "hey, got any new counterfeits this week/month to share/sell !"
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i've seen people try and every blue moon, succeed. not necessarily for nefarious/devious purposes.
but like you said odds are not good. i can't even fathom the amount of time and money spent on counterfeit detection training at the top 5 tpg.
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Raw Hawaii Commemorative can be a huge gamble, TRUST me. Lol!