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A fool and his money. Psst: I'm the fool. And the Emergency Issue Eagle is the reason.

WeissWeiss Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it's any consolation, remember the adage... "It takes a big man to admit his mistakes." 😈

  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow parentheses around the “P”. What will they think of next? When all you have to sell are labels you have to get creative.

  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,025 ✭✭✭✭✭

    May I suggest

    (Wizard Supply image)

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Personally, I like it. A saying I like to live by is if you are not making mistakes, you are not pushing yourself for betterment.

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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Didn't they do the same thing a couple years back with the S in parenthesis? Or a W?
    I
    To each his own, but I personally dont like anything that loses all of its value or intrigue when cracked out of the slab.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Like what @ricko said ... it's a hobby. Enjoy.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JimTyler said:
    Wow parentheses around the “P”. What will they think of next? When all you have to sell are labels you have to get creative.

    I think it would be interesting for someone to counterstamp these with "P" on them, like a Mel Wacks coin.

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2020 8:50AM

    There are support groups for people like you. :)

    Not planning to get one of these, but it is probably a necessity for ASE completists.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,208 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I personally think they are a neat part of history. I'm not sure the premium, but if it was not much, I would pick one up.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,774 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In stamp collecting there is a subgroup of material called "postal history", which loosely defined is the interesting usage of stamps on their envelopes with unusual postmarks or other markings.

    I see these special slabbed coins as the numismatic equivalent.

    I have a WTC Recovery coin, but it is a Peruvian silver coin.

    The 2020 "emergency" SEs are a bit of contrived hype, but they do capture a moment in time and are historical. Call it "numismatic history".

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They're kind of first cousins to the San Francisco-minted ones without a mint mark, produced a few years back. I have 2013 and 2014 ASE's from San Fran, TPG-graded. I only bought them 'cause I needed those years ASE's, and they were priced barely higher than regular ASE's. Many more of these were minted than this Philadelphia emergency issue.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    Didn't they do the same thing a couple years back with the S in parenthesis? Or a W?
    I
    To each his own, but I personally dont like anything that loses all of its value or intrigue when cracked out of the slab.

    Yes. Frankly, the slabbed coins are the only way to know you have that issue...if you care about such things.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OMG not only is it a rarity of immense importance, but it also exhibits luster reminiscent of early silversmithing.
    Truly a worthy companion to a Brasher tankard.

    :o

  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2020 11:28AM

    Seriously, did you see CLCT stock this past week? You are making it happen. There are plenty of basketball labels to collect, too.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2020 2:39PM

    "In case of emergency (future spots) break slab."

    @DCW said:
    Didn't they do the same thing a couple years back with the S in parenthesis? Or a W?

    Yes, the parenthesis indicate they have provenance of a different mint when there is no mintmark. In this case they have a mint provided tracking number on a sealed monster box. These bullion coins are normally released by West Point with no mintmark. Mint published which box serial numbers came from Philly (480 boxes total) during temporary closure of WP. This means all coins bearing this label were submitted in sealed 500 coin boxes. Dat's a lot of grading fees, even with a bulk discount.

    Emergency issue? Not to me, just a temporary change in production location. I'm holding out for the "Struck in the lunchroom" label.

    Repetition of ignorance is ignorance raised to the power two.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,774 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see a new business opportunity for the mint and I am only half joking.

    They can strike a limited number of SEs on every date during the year and then partner with PCGS to slab them as birthday (or other special occassion) coins. :D

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    Yeah, what is the "emergency?"
    Well, for 2020 you can just pick one I guess

    There's an emergency every year.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    GTE

    Guess The Emergency

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don’t ever under estimate The Weiss.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Weiss always buys cool stuff and this is no exception. B)

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    Yeah, what is the "emergency?"

    A pandemic that was severe enough to shut down one of the US Mint branch facilities.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sometimes you splurge on things...it happens.

  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had six 2001 911 Ground zero ASEs. Bought them at a show months after they 1st came out. Bought them from a major dealer at a show for $40 each. Everyone hated them back then. Called them "death coins". I knew they were a connection to USA's darkest time. Now they bring close to $200 each. I sold my last one a few weeks ago on GC auctions.

  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Need to add they were all PCGS holdered and not graded.
    Don't think NGC graded any. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both these coins are all about the label. If you crack the coin out, no way to tell the difference between rarity and common AES of same date.. The P mint ASE seems to be pushing the BS evelope to me. jmo

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it’s a beautiful coin. If you like it, I love it. You liking it is all that matters.

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  • GiveMeProofGiveMeProof Posts: 624 ✭✭✭✭

    According to Coinweek, the 2015 (P) MS coin had a mintage of 79,640 making it the rarest and selling in MS69 for $500-$600.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fivecents said:
    I had six 2001 911 Ground zero ASEs. Bought them at a show months after they 1st came out. Bought them from a major dealer at a show for $40 each. Everyone hated them back then. Called them "death coins". I knew they were a connection to USA's darkest time. Now they bring close to $200 each. I sold my last one a few weeks ago on GC auctions.

    I think these are different. Similar to a shipwreck coin, they may not be distinguishable from other coins out of their slabs, but they have a clear distinction from the rest in my mind. That may sound hypocritical, but the connection to such a cataclysmic event in our history is intriguing.
    I dont see that with "emergency" issues of bullion simply because they used another facility to strike them.

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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:

    @fivecents said:
    I had six 2001 911 Ground zero ASEs. Bought them at a show months after they 1st came out. Bought them from a major dealer at a show for $40 each. Everyone hated them back then. Called them "death coins". I knew they were a connection to USA's darkest time. Now they bring close to $200 each. I sold my last one a few weeks ago on GC auctions.

    I think these are different. Similar to a shipwreck coin, they may not be distinguishable from other coins out of their slabs, but they have a clear distinction from the rest in my mind. That may sound hypocritical, but the connection to such a cataclysmic event in our history is intriguing.
    I dont see that with "emergency" issues of bullion simply because they used another facility to strike them.

    I totally agree. I know the WTC coins are very important in America's history. Probably one of the most historic ultra modern American coins PCGS will ever holder. Just holding the coin and looking at it imagining the details of the horrific event is over whelming. Knowing this coin was there was there.
    I regret not keeping one for myself

  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it happens to the best of us we buy what we think is a good deal and well it's not all that good of a deal

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