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USMCUSMC Posts: 329 ✭✭✭✭
edited June 2, 2020 7:44PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Hi - I am new to this forum ....
My wife is a retired banker, Officer Bank of Boston / 42 years.
Her tellers used to watch for older coins (pre-1950), silver coins,
silver dollars, gold & silver certificates and large denomination
bills. As long as whatever she took was replaced with an equal
amount of cash - no problem. In 1997, a teller brought her over
a sealed roll of 1997 pennies, all of which were a silver color, no
copper on them. Does anyone know anything about these?

Any Help Appreciated,
Al / USMC
Vietnam Veteran

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,374 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum. Cool pic of a 1997c. I never seen before. Most probably played with? Not by you but someone. Welcome to the forum once again. :)

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,995 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it didn't get its copper plating sheet. Welcome to the boards and thank you for your service.

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  • USMCUSMC Posts: 329 ✭✭✭✭

    TomB ... Thanks
    What would something like these be worth?
    Would it be worth sending to PCGS ?
    Al / USMC

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @USMC said:
    TomB ... Thanks
    What would something like these be worth?
    Would it be worth sending to PCGS ?
    Al / USMC

    It wouldn't hurt I'd say.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great pic but I can't pick up a good reading on the color in my screen.

    I never figured a whole roll of unplated cents would show up together, but why not.

    The title of your thread is a little generic. If you add "error" or "unplated" to the title then the error experts might see it.

  • USMCUSMC Posts: 329 ✭✭✭✭

    JBK: The color is like a matt silver, not shinny or like nickle silver? Close to what
    a new nickle looks like. There is no copper color at all ....
    Al / USMC

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like missing copper clad. Possibly a sheet that the planchets were punched from. If this is raw zinc, they will be very reactive to the environment. Be careful with them. Place “possible errors” in your title to get thr error experts to chime in.

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To be clear, both sides have no copper?

  • USMCUSMC Posts: 329 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2020 7:45PM

    bolivarshagnasty: Neither side has any signs of copper.
    Added Possible Errors to heading ....
    Al / USMC

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any that you might submit I would recommend putting them in saflips right away.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow missing the copper plating on both sides would be quite the find.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it is a true unplated cent it should be missing copper on all three sides (don't forget the edge).

    Cent planchets are plated after being punched from the strip and before striking. (They are not clad like dimes, quarters, etc.).

    Agree with advice to handle them very carefully. They will turn to crap very quickly if exposed to skin oils or sweat.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,601 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Finding a "full sealed roll" of such an error seems very unlikely. For something like that to happen a complete or paritial entire bin of pieces would have to have gotten by the press operators and inspectors at the mint. If that were the case I'm sure many other such coins would be out in circulation but I have never heard of any in the 23 years since those were struck.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looking at the sample of one, my thoughts go in a different direction... there does appear to be some wear on Lincoln's tie and jacket...and lines across his head/hair. I am thinking a plated coin....Of course, one would need to have them in hand to do a true study for conclusions. Cheers, RickO

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2020 7:58AM

    Welcome to the forum! :)

    Great photo but the color balance seems a little off, that makes it hard to tell.
    As mentioned "Finding a "full sealed roll" of such an error seems very unlikely" good chance a few copper ones would be in the roll also. Not saying it is out of the question if the roll was found at a bank and a teller could have pulled it from a sealed box. Fair chance if this is a solid roll other rolls in the box would have been the same way. It would take a large quantity of unplated planchets in the presses to get solid rolls with no copper ones mixed in.

    You may want to send one in for grading & authentication, if it comes back good then send the others. It can cost a bit to send a single coin for grading, you may want to look at other options. There are several experts here that may be willing to take a look at it if you send it to them or there are grading companies that are more cost effective for a single coin. You would want the remainder of the coins in our hosts plastic to bring the most money on the market. Not sure of the market demand and it may be wise to send 10 to our host and see how fast you are able to turn them.

    Have you weighed them?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Where are the error guys? :/

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the photos that coin looks plated – and I have never heard of someone finding two or three of them at the same time much less a solid roll - at this point Based on the photo and the solid roll of 50, I’d say they’re all plated – just based on those two data points.

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