1909 S Lincoln. Opinions.
mr1931S
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I need a 1909 S Lincoln for my album and am considering this one. Tell me what you all think about it. Does it look like it has been subjected to recoloring? Does it look real? I like the look but have learned to be careful when buying raw coins like the 1909 S Lincoln because this date has been counterfeited extensively.
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To my eye this one does not look re-colored, and it looks authentic also. Now as to whether or not it has been processed with a pencil eraser in it's lifetime is anybody's guess.
The mintmark looks correct and the coin looks fine as in not recolored. I don't like the rev fingerprint above "ONE" or all the white stuff on the coin.
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The first time I saw the obverse image it occurred to that the relief of the 's' seems to be high relative to the relief of the date on this worn coin.
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It's just striation from improper alloy mix. Hit it with some acetone and you should be good to go.
WS
Looks ok to me cept for the print above the one
Looks genuine and around a fine to Fine+
I have seen mintmarks on 09-s lincolns in similar grade have that stand out appearance
VF 39 and nice wood grain
F-15 to VF-30. Nice wood grained Key.
Pete
Not a bad looking coin!
If I bought this coin the first thing I would do on receiving it is give the piece a bath in acetone. The mintmark seems off to me. Mintmark should fall off, if a glue job set, after acetone bath.
No return allowed. Am going to pass on buying. Thank you all for your comments.
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Good decision to pass.... Though it looks authentic, I also looked at the mint mark and thought it questionable...Cheers, RickO
Am tempted to ask the seller if I can get my money back if a "big three" TPG says "not authentic." I would get my money back and get to keep the item if deemed no good by TPG, right?
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I like it. Hard to imagine what you paid for it and be able to afford to have it sent in, just to be certified(roughly $50 counting S/H and Insurance both ways). I would take it to a dealer and have them look at it inhand. I believe it to be genuine and I do like the woodgrain finish. If you could enlarge the mintmark, check to see if the telltale dot is in the upper loop. Your photo does not enlarge enough to be sure. Just something to check.
Jim
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Kinda looks like this one from a genuine 09-S VDB:
But this one (Die #1) is the only one documented that both VDB and non VDB Cents were struck from:
Pete
Kinda looks like this one from a genuine 09-S VDB:
Further research that I've done reveals that the 's' position and tilt of the subject coin does not exactly match any of the six known positions and tilts for 1909 S Lincoln cents, with or without V.D.B. on the reverse, no matter.See "Detecting Altered Coins" by Bert Harsche for more information.
My slabbed (PCGS) 1909 S VDB is from obverse die #6. I also have a slabbed (ANACS) 1909 S without VDB from #6 obverse die. #6 die is the lowest and most far right of all the six dies used for 1909 S Lincoln cents.
Die #1 (high left), according to Harsche, was used for both 1909 S VDB and 1909 S without VDB.
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@mr1874
What edition is your "Detecting Altered Coins" by Bert Harsche?
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
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My Harsche reference is 5th edition, copyright 1973.
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On close inspection my 1909 s appears to be a candidate for ddo as it has very thick LIBERTY and date.
Has anyone ever heard of ddo 1909s lincoln cent before my post here?
My coin is ANACS graded and I'm considering sending it to them for evaluation as a ddo. Would it be discovery coin if they think it is?
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no doubling to my eye, but you'd need more magnification to be sure
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no doubling to my eye, but you'd need more magnification to be sure
I'm thinking I wasn't sufficiently clear. My apologies.
The 1909-S that I think might have a ddo is not the one pictured in the OP. I see unusually thick letters of LIBERTY and thick numbers of date on my straight graded by ANACS 1909-S which is not pictured here in this thread.
I was wondering if 1909-S ddo Lincoln is a known coin. I don't see such a thing listed in my Lincoln Cent Guidebook by Lange.
Since you chimed in here, what are your thoughts about the OP coin (pictured) that I was considering buying but noticed that the 's' position and tilt doesn't match any of the six known obverse dies for 1909-S Lincoln cent?
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