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Book on Mexican Cap & Rays Minors

BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

Obviously Resplandores covers 8R's though in need of an update. Is there any comparable book for Cap & Rays minors?

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  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not that I know.

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But that would be a long book. Just imagine there are about 1100 8 reales. Multiply that for 1/4 real, 1/2 real, real, 2 reales, and 4 reales. I could not even imagine (and that is only silver federal issues).

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was thinking of areas which are undocumented in major book or web format and this came to mind. @Abuelo to your point, the vastness of the endeavor may prevent such a publication.

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CoinsFacts Wiki has some information, from catalogues mainly. But yes, I envy the dude who wants to do this. I do not have enough years left.

  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭✭

    Didn't Krause produce a Mexico only catalogue?

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe inquire here .

    https://usmex.org/

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 6, 2020 8:21AM

    @1960NYGiants said:
    Didn't Krause produce a Mexico only catalogue?

    There’s a North American catalog. Handy because it’s smaller than the World catalog, but no more detailed or better researched.

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  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:

    @1960NYGiants said:
    Didn't Krause produce a Mexico only catalogue?

    There’s a North American catalog. Handy because it’s smaller than the World catalog, but no more detailed or better researched.

    It doesn't have patterns. So it's useless.... B)

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mexican numismatics isn't very advanced and well-studied like US numismatics or BrItish numismatics. That fact is both good and bad. I tend to feel it's mostly good because it keeps the riff-raff out of the field!

    Another reason it's good is that it provides fertile areas of research for people (i.e. the Twentieth Century Pattern book that was recently published by Pablo Luna, a young researcher in Mexico).

    All that said, information is out there, but in many disparate places. With experience, you will learn what places to look, even if it means a trip to the ANS or ANA library to study the literature.

  • coinnerdcoinnerd Posts: 492 ✭✭✭

    There is a book call Standard Catalog of Mexican Coins by Collin R Bruce. It was published by Krause and is out of print. My Copy is from 1981. It does list all the minor cap and rays with all the Mints and many verities. All coinage from Mexico are in the book from earliest cobs to publication date. Includes revolution period, Iturbide and the civil war period.
    Also has paper and medals issued by the government.

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That was a good book, but the series never continued because there was no money in it. That's the problem with books about niche areas. (And almost anything about Mexican numismatics is a niche subject.) The books are labors of love because the costs are so high for a small print run. Not everyone can afford to finance such a labor of love and then sell the books for the next 20-30 years to recoup the outlay. Certainly a book publisher would not get involved in this.

    Have you ever wondered why the prices are so high as compared with, for example, a Whitman book? And it's not just that Whitman runs a tight ship and prints their books in China. It's also because they have the market data and generally know what sells. Notice that they are not producing a Volume 3 of their Mexican series?

  • realeswatcherrealeswatcher Posts: 415 ✭✭✭

    Does the Buttrey/Hubbard book go into any detail??

    If a reasonably well-respected name(s) essentially self-published via Amazon, the audience would find it. There's definite interest out there... look at the increasing prices for even crummy grade fractional coppers... and of widget pieces like the hoarded early 1860s Mo 2R.

    Even a pretty good website would be better than nothing (as noted, coinfactswiki is already pretty decent with a ton of images of Mex. republic reales).

    And you dont have to have, like, a full page on each and every year/mintmark... Do, say, a synopsis of "important" or notable points for each series (defined as, e.g., all the Guadalajara 2R).

    I should probably know this, but is there any standard guidebook in Mexico along the lines of the Red Book... or say, the Restrepo book in Colombia?

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @realeswatcher I think the closest are the Standard Catalogue of Mexican Coins from the 1980s or more recently the Encyclopaedia of Mexican Numismatics by Don and Louise Bayle. But not details on individual issues. But are nothing but comprehensive lists.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd fund the book publishing if someone did the leg work

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What information are you looking for?

    Decimal or Real series?

    Only silver issues, or copper as well?

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Silver reals

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