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Anatomy of a Die Clash, Part 2: Two-Leaf LFEs

RKKayRKKay Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭

For those of you who are interested, I have now added pages discussing both the die clashes from 1855 Four-Leaf LFEs and those from the 1854 (and 1855) Two-Leaf LFEs. Here is a link to the original forum post on the Four-Leaf LFEs. Here is a link to it on my website.

Here's the link to the discussion on Two-Leaf LFE die clashes.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the links, interesting and good pictures with details. Cheers, RickO

  • JesseKraftJesseKraft Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 23, 2020 6:37AM

    Awesome, @RKKay ! Very nice overlays.

    1855 pattern Flying Eagle cent. Copper, 5.93g, 25mm.
    American Numismatic Society, 1980.109.2143

    Jesse C. Kraft, Ph.D.
    Resolute Americana Curator of American Numismatics
    American Numismatic Society
    New York City

    Member of the American Numismatic Association (ANA), British Numismatic Society (BNS), New York Numismatic Club (NYNC), Early American Copper (EAC), the Colonial Coin Collectors Club (C4), U.S. Mexican Numismatic Association (USMNA), Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC), Token and Medal Society (TAMS), and life member of the Atlantic County Numismatic Society (ACNS).
    Become a member of the American Numismatic Society!

  • RKKayRKKay Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭

    @JesseKraft said:
    Awesome, @RKKay ! Very nice overlays.

    1855 pattern Flying Eagle cent. Copper, 5.93g, 25mm.
    American Numismatic Society, 1980.109.2143

    Thanks, Jesse. Question for you on the 1855 Four-Leaf you posted. Has it had metallurgical testing? I see it weighs 5.93 grams (91.51 grains). Of the LFEs I've tested, ten have come back as 100% copper (or nearly 100%). The least any of those ten LFEs weighed was 98.46 grains. Of the approximately seventy that have come back as bronze, every one has fallen in the range of 88.7 to 97.7 grains. Thanks. Rick

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very good work, and a real concise and understandable dissertation.

    Well done!

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • RKKayRKKay Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭

    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    Very good work, and a real concise and understandable dissertation.

    Well done!

    Pete

    Thanks.

  • JesseKraftJesseKraft Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RKKay , As far as I know it has not received any metallurgical testing. However, I see (based on your results) that there's only 14% chance that it's copper and not bronze. As such, I just updated our internal files from Copper to Bronze, as well as for our other example that weighs 5.88g (albeit, slightly worn). These changes will take a little bit of time before these changes are reflected on the website (after the next mass update). Thanks for this info!

    Jesse C. Kraft, Ph.D.
    Resolute Americana Curator of American Numismatics
    American Numismatic Society
    New York City

    Member of the American Numismatic Association (ANA), British Numismatic Society (BNS), New York Numismatic Club (NYNC), Early American Copper (EAC), the Colonial Coin Collectors Club (C4), U.S. Mexican Numismatic Association (USMNA), Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC), Token and Medal Society (TAMS), and life member of the Atlantic County Numismatic Society (ACNS).
    Become a member of the American Numismatic Society!

  • RKKayRKKay Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭

    @JesseKraft said:
    @RKKay , As far as I know it has not received any metallurgical testing. However, I see (based on your results) that there's only 14% chance that it's copper and not bronze. As such, I just updated our internal files from Copper to Bronze, as well as for our other example that weighs 5.88g (albeit, slightly worn). These changes will take a little bit of time before these changes are reflected on the website (after the next mass update). Thanks for this info!

    Thanks for the info on your pieces. If you need any info from me, let me know.

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