I was called a liar so here are some photos. The date is visible so you can see when I started resorting to ebay for masks. We already knew for months it was bad, even then. I hadn't been able to buy any from my vendors for 6 weeks at that point.
You can also see the CPR masks we bought for the old folks home down the street.
You can add up the totals if you wanna see a dollar amount of what we have given to strangers. I can post photos of the invoices for all the deodorant and toothbrushes and pads, if you want. All the extra stuff we didn't have to buy, but we did because it was the right thing to do.
Which doesn't include all of the overnight shipping I've paid to get hygiene products in women's hands. Or the untold hundreds of first class, out of my pocket, for everyone else.
I haven't turned down a health care worker or someone begging. That is not me.
Also attached is a photo of one of the hygiene/response kit that we have built thousands of and distributed free.
I don't have photos of the countless kits I built and dropped off at businesses, in mailboxes, the bulk drop we did for the old folks home, etc. Unfortunately I didn't think I'd have to explain myself on the Internet to strangers regarding what I can and cannot do with my own private property.
Please refrain from flooding my thread and clogging my inbox. I understand you're all mad and whatever but I'm not the guy you need to be mad at.
A lot of you need to put money where your mouth is and go be part of the relief effort, if you think you could do it so much better.
I have a response better than your US federal government and state governments combined, and I don't even know many of the people who have benefitted.
Our proactive efforts undoubtedly prevented millions of infections over a 30 day period, long before your governments "responded".
@jclovescoins said:
Tell us what you want for it. Saying gold is a pretty steep ask, silver would make more sense. Price it out and you may get some actual interest and demonstrate your ethics as well.
I took your advice and I updated my OP.
I didn't wanna say anything and get taken advantage of, but we have been treating this as Good Will donations wherever we've gone. I've only asked for help along the way a few times, from people I knew could spare it.
I have things people need and they have things I need, and I really have no interest in robbing people's treasures. I just didn't want too many people stealing from me because we need either the gold and silver or the masks and I can't afford to get robbed en masse. I've already had so many people lie to me and rip me off or steal them and just tell me to eat s*.
The box cost me $0.65, the bag cost me $0.115, the electricity from the sterilizer costs a lot, each label costs me $0.031, my time, the mats to even do this, my own PPE and ethyl alcohol to do it cleanly as possible, the professional lab work sterile technique training I paid through the teeth for, containers were $0.96/ea, the time writing instructions and sending out the autoclavable plastic containers with masks. The time I've taken away from my business to build these things and respond to your guys posts & some trolling. Tyvek suits cost me $75/ea because I had to buy them off a price gouger.
Or, reimbursement for the knowledge it's taken me over the years to jerry rig a way to put masks in people's hands and a way for them to sterilize them at home as to not waste a precious resource.
If you think that's worth nothing than offer nothing or steal from me. All I can do is take people at their word that they'll send something. And I guess if they don't and they think stealing is acceptable than I guess they needed it more than I thought. I still have forgiveness in my heart, and while that doesn't excuse behavior it at least explains it, and I understand.
I'm gonna release masks in 10 packs. They come in an autoclaveable plastic container with instructions how to sterilize, store and protect them and yourself. There is information on the things that do and do not work, and the things you can do to protect your family.
I'll provide a photo of the contents and a tracking number, and will ship when people provide the same.
I will leave it up to the person if they want to ship or not.
I know people need them so I'm okay shipping and just hoping for the best. I don't wanna wait until the end of the week to ship when people could have them by the end of the week.
I don't want anyone to get hurt, and I just wanna help, but I don't know how to do this because I've never had to do anything like this before, and I'm scared and worried too just like everyone else. Just.. bear with me, please.
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I was called a liar so here are some photos. The date is visible so you can see when I started resorting to ebay for masks. We already knew for months it was bad, even then. I hadn't been able to buy any from my vendors for 6 weeks at that point.
You can also see the CPR masks we bought for the old folks home down the street.
You can add up the totals if you wanna see a dollar amount of what we have given to strangers. I can post photos of the invoices for all the deodorant and toothbrushes and pads, if you want. All the extra stuff we didn't have to buy, but we did because it was the right thing to do.
Which doesn't include all of the overnight shipping I've paid to get hygiene products in women's hands. Or the untold hundreds of first class, out of my pocket, for everyone else.
I haven't turned down a health care worker or someone begging. That is not me.
Also attached is a photo of one of the hygiene/response kit that we have built thousands of and distributed free.
I don't have photos of the countless kits I built and dropped off at businesses, in mailboxes, the bulk drop we did for the old folks home, etc. Unfortunately I didn't think I'd have to explain myself on the Internet to strangers regarding what I can and cannot do with my own private property.
Please refrain from flooding my thread and clogging my inbox. I understand you're all mad and whatever but I'm not the guy you need to be mad at.
A lot of you need to put money where your mouth is and go be part of the relief effort, if you think you could do it so much better.
I have a response better than your US federal government and state governments combined, and I don't even know many of the people who have benefitted.
Our proactive efforts undoubtedly prevented millions of infections over a 30 day period, long before your governments "responded".
I took your advice and I updated my OP.
I didn't wanna say anything and get taken advantage of, but we have been treating this as Good Will donations wherever we've gone. I've only asked for help along the way a few times, from people I knew could spare it.
I have things people need and they have things I need, and I really have no interest in robbing people's treasures. I just didn't want too many people stealing from me because we need either the gold and silver or the masks and I can't afford to get robbed en masse. I've already had so many people lie to me and rip me off or steal them and just tell me to eat s*.
The box cost me $0.65, the bag cost me $0.115, the electricity from the sterilizer costs a lot, each label costs me $0.031, my time, the mats to even do this, my own PPE and ethyl alcohol to do it cleanly as possible, the professional lab work sterile technique training I paid through the teeth for, containers were $0.96/ea, the time writing instructions and sending out the autoclavable plastic containers with masks. The time I've taken away from my business to build these things and respond to your guys posts & some trolling. Tyvek suits cost me $75/ea because I had to buy them off a price gouger.
Or, reimbursement for the knowledge it's taken me over the years to jerry rig a way to put masks in people's hands and a way for them to sterilize them at home as to not waste a precious resource.
If you think that's worth nothing than offer nothing or steal from me. All I can do is take people at their word that they'll send something. And I guess if they don't and they think stealing is acceptable than I guess they needed it more than I thought. I still have forgiveness in my heart, and while that doesn't excuse behavior it at least explains it, and I understand.
I'm gonna release masks in 10 packs. They come in an autoclaveable plastic container with instructions how to sterilize, store and protect them and yourself. There is information on the things that do and do not work, and the things you can do to protect your family.
I'll provide a photo of the contents and a tracking number, and will ship when people provide the same.
I will leave it up to the person if they want to ship or not.
I know people need them so I'm okay shipping and just hoping for the best. I don't wanna wait until the end of the week to ship when people could have them by the end of the week.
I don't want anyone to get hurt, and I just wanna help, but I don't know how to do this because I've never had to do anything like this before, and I'm scared and worried too just like everyone else. Just.. bear with me, please.
Is it just me or does this post just get stranger and stranger?
I am not being judgemental regarding the subject/content of this post; but I really think this forum is not the place for it to be posted.