...And then there were 8 (gold cac gold $20s) !!!

Leeroybrown

Well, 2 away from halfa box o’ twenty on my $20 Gold Cac Gold set and I have covered a lotta ground in the past 6 months switching my focus from Seated Liberty Dollars...

I’m now up to 8 and looking forward to more in the future!
So far I have been able to:
•add 2 Type I cac gold libs
•add 2 Type II cac gold libs
•add 3 Type III cac gold libs
•add 1 Saint Gaudens cac gold
•add the P, S, and CC mint marks

See the progressing set below!

Thanks and would love to know thoughts on the newest CC cac gold add as a nice dirty gold example! See below:

Leeroybrown

...A few more pics of the 1890-cc

asheland

I love that dirty gold!

Insider2

Since you asked these are my thoughts...

1. The coin is very unattractive. Getting the dirt off (proper cleaning/conservation) those coins before sending them in would get higher grades. For example, IMO, that 90-CC is closer to MS than to VF. VF-35 XF-40 XF-45 AU-50 AU-53 AU-55 AU-58 MS-60. The gold bean proves it. But I do understand that you are trying to collect under-graded coins for whatever the reason.

2. Over the last few years, Liberty Dollars are a much better "numismatic" pursuit. However, right now it is probably better to own gold and if the bottom falls out IMO, your $20 CC lib is going to be just another piece of bullion - nothing special.

Can we see a few of the dollars in your collection?

Leeroybrown

Insider2,

A few years back, my SLD set was up to 24 pieces, but I came across the opp to buy 40 acres of land in the country... so I sold most of my set to my collector friends and never looked back 😢...

See below for a few of my old pieces that are now in my buddy’s collections safe and sound...

Leeroybrown

Leeroybrown

@Insider2 said:
Since you asked these are my thoughts...

1. The coin is very unattractive. Getting the dirt off (proper cleaning/conservation) those coins before sending them in would get higher grades. For example, IMO, that 90-CC is closer to MS than to VF. VF-35 XF-40 XF-45 AU-50 AU-53 AU-55 AU-58 MS-60. The gold bean proves it. But I do understand that you are trying to collect under-graded coins for whatever the reason.
2. Over the last few years, Liberty Dollars are a much better "numismatic" pursuit. However, right now it is probably better to own gold and if the bottom falls out IMO, your $20 CC lib is going to be just another piece of bullion - nothing special.

Can we see a few of the dollars in your collection?

Insider2 - really appreciate the insight and thoughts above... just a question, but if the bottom falls out on Seated Liberty Dollars, what is the value of Silver in an SLD?

I agree, that overall, the rarity and such is a much better bet with SLD's, but frankly, if the bottom falls out of Numismatic values across the board, I would much rather be holding Gold for spot than silver... just my opinion at this current and very crazy volatile time in the world today... BUT, I still do and will always have a passion for Seated Liberty Dollars...

Regarding the 1890cc - I personally love the "dirty gold" look and wouldn't ever think of 'getting the dirt off' the same as I didn't clean or dip/ polish my SLD's when I owned them as I loved the 'original skin, toning, etc. of them in circ grades especially. I do enjoy the details of the collector vein that I am currently in regarding $20 libs gold, OGH or older holder, and gold cac sticker... it's a great challenge and takes a ton of patience and the premiums aren't too far off from spot, which is also worth it for the obvious reasons...

Anyways, thanks for your thoughts and I greatly appreciate your perspective! would love to have others...!!!

Insider2

@Leeroybrown,

Reason I asked is because Randy has been giving talks at FUN about how well these coins have been doing and he believes they are good investments.

As for the gold, much better than silver to own. Additionally, a collectors "taste" for beauty is for each to decide. So I am in total agreement with ALL of your comments.

No Headlights

@Leeroybrown said:
...A few more pics of the 1890-cc

A beauty. Wouldn’t do a thing to it but enjoy it. Love old dirty gold.
Congratulations

Crusty

Leeroy- I love the new addition. CC gold is pretty fricken cool and the fact that she has the bells and whistles is even better. When the box of 20 is completed it will be pretty sweet. I want to see an O mint next.... I’ve never seen 8 side by side before. Heck it’s hard to even find one.... They seem to be in high demand so it’s pretty cool you’ve added so much in such a short time period. When I was buying gold bullion I got bored really quick and totally understand the allure of old gold. I may end up doin a $20 lib set when I’m done with my SLD set. I know how tough it was for you to sell off your Seated dollars (you had the best VF set I’ve ever seen) but the land was to good of a deal to pass up. On the bright side you always have visiting privileges for the SLDs I bought.

Leeroybrown

Here’s another that I used to own that I passed on to a good friends collection... 👀

Leeroybrown

Anyone else have thoughts on the 1890cc $20 gold cac pick up?

Grade?
Quality?
Thoughts on dirty gold?

Leeroybrown

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TennesseeDave

AU-53 and sweet.

Insider2

I could probably turn it into at least an AU-50 to 53.

Leeroybrown

Yep, Insider2...

I agree with you. My guess was about an AU53

Leeroybrown

Not considering it being undergraded... what would you all grade it on quality? A+ being best and F being worst quality...

spacehayduke

@Leeroybrown said:
Anyone else have thoughts on the 1890cc $20 gold cac pick up?

Grade?
Quality?
Thoughts on dirty gold?

A+ all the way LRB!

Insider2, shame on you. Turn it into a 50-53? By destroying yet another untouched coin, great.......

SeattleSlammer

Great octuplets !
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Leeroybrown

Thanks SpaceHayDuke and SeattleSlammer!

CoinJunkie

CC gold certainly has the cool factor, but this latest coin is not my favorite (aesthetically) of the ones you've amassed. You asked for opinions...

Leeroybrown

@CoinJunkie said:
CC gold certainly has the cool factor, but this latest coin is not my favorite (aesthetically) of the ones you've amassed. You asked for opinions...

Thanks CoinJunkie!!! Preciate your feedback!

Leeroybrown

CoinJunkie,

Which is your favorite outta curiousity???

CoinJunkie

@Leeroybrown said:
CoinJunkie,

Which is your favorite outta curiousity???

Hard to say without going back to the previous threads for the close up photos. That 1894 looks very clean in the group shot at the top of the thread.

Leeroybrown

This one has the best eye appeal IMO... 1897-s, but the 1894 is very nice too...

Leeroybrown

Leeroybrown

There’s the 74... also nice

Pickwickjr

Congratulation on the new addition. Nice group of dollars and $20’s.
I love the look of the 1890 cc. Can’t wait to see it in hand. I would leave it the way it is, the dirt and grime speak originality.

johnny9434

I'm glad to see a cc in there. Wtg

ricko

CC gold is always great...heck, gold is great... The CC is a special bonus. Dirty gold is fine...I will not offer a letter grade, since I consider that a matter of personal taste....I like it and congratulations on a really nice coin. Cheers, RickO

SethChandler

The 90CC is a wonderful looking coin. Congrats. Love your collecting them.

asheland

This thread rocks!

coinkat

Love the gold... Especially the 1890-cc. A thread such as this really serves a purpose to at least illustrate what original gold looks like. Further, there is value in originality and to suggest that coins like this are mere bullion pieces and should be enhanced to obtain a higher grade is misplaced as well as repugnant.

Leeroybrown

Thanks for the reaffirmation @SethChandler and @Coinkat! Appreciate that! I love original gold $20 Libs too! ...in any grade!

Its just so hard to find $20 libs that haven’t been doctored in some way...

metalmeister

That 90CC Gold is a true Wild West coin. Looks like it has been in a few bar fights, looted , buried and recovered.

Leeroybrown

Interestingly enough, the 1890-cc also seems to be a late die-state as well... see the die breaks through a loup? Anyone ever hear of a “broken F” on a 1890-cc late die state?

Leeroybrown

anybody else like old gold!!!

Sandman70gt

I love what you are building. I like the old crusty CC. People many moons ago bought things with it. It didn't just sit in a bank vault its whole life. Can you imagine how wealthy you would feel with a $20 DE in your pocket back then?

Leeroybrown

@Sandman70gt

I know right! I love to think about the stories the circulated original coins can tell!

Thx for the comments!

No Headlights

Leroy
I love the look of those twenties.
I don’t understand why anyone would do anything to them but enjoy them. Perfect just the way you have them
Congrats

Leeroybrown

@No Headlights said:
Leroy
I love the look of those twenties.
I don’t understand why anyone would do anything to them but enjoy them. Perfect just the way you have them
Congrats

Thank you sir! Much appreciated!!

LRB

09sVDB

As most have said they are beautiful just the way they are

asheland

I love the dirty old gold, this is all I have that's similar:

asheland

No Headlights

@asheland said:

Asheland
Has your twenty been to CAC? Seems like a coin that may do well

Leeroybrown

Looks nice, Ashland!!!

Timbuk3

Love those "dirty" gold !!!

Leeroybrown

Me too, Timbuk3

asheland

@No Headlights said:

@asheland said:

Asheland
Has your twenty been to CAC? Seems like a coin that may do well

It has not. But when I’m ready, it’s definitely going!

wayfarer

I love your „old dirty gold” – as a european I would also like it without a box 😊