Home U.S. Coin Forum

Environmental damage????

TPugmireTPugmire Posts: 2
edited March 13, 2020 4:03PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Ok so I’ve seen my share of environmental damage and I’ve seen completely black coins from a tone.
Your telling me this is un gradable?

But this coin is gradable? I’m so confused as to what that is now.

Comments

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TPugmire.... Perhaps it should be sent in for reconsideration.....Just a suggestion... Cheers, RickO

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @TPugmire.... Perhaps it should be sent in for reconsideration.....Just a suggestion... Cheers, RickO

    Not sure it's worth the cost plus shipping both ways. If it were a more valuable coin, would it make sense to send it back for the conservation service?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall...You are correct about cost, however, some need to satisfy their OCD.... ;) Cheers, RickO

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At least the Morgan has a little bit of original glimmer in the fields. The other one is toast! Peace Roy

    BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52, LukeMarshall, coinsarefun, MichaelDixon, NickPatton, ProfLiz, Twobitcollector,Jesbroken oih82w8, DCW

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Still nice.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    there is pitting in the coin surface on the Columbian - obverse field in front of eyes and above.

  • 50cCOMMEMGUY50cCOMMEMGUY Posts: 211 ✭✭✭

    Can’t say anything about the Morgan, not my thing, but no way on Earth I’d have sent that Columbia’s in. To each their own. NOT judging you but I’d have taken the sub money and snagged a decent 64 for 70-80 bucks.

    "Today the crumbs, tomorrow the
    loaf. Perhaps someday the whole damn boulangerie." - fictional Jack Rackham

  • 50cCOMMEMGUY50cCOMMEMGUY Posts: 211 ✭✭✭

    Columbian NOT Columbia’s. Stupid auto correct 🤦‍♂️

    "Today the crumbs, tomorrow the
    loaf. Perhaps someday the whole damn boulangerie." - fictional Jack Rackham

  • TPugmireTPugmire Posts: 2
    edited March 18, 2020 5:58AM

    Well I’m sorry I’m pretty new to coins in general. I’m sure most of you hang out a good majority of you’re days and would know that this coin wasn’t even worth getting graded.
    But just FYI it was a freebie with my vouchers. I don’t have many coins worth less than 2500.
    Soooo your right prolly wasn’t worth the postage but figured who cares atleast it’s one more in a slab. But some of you never even addressed the issue just useless banter.
    I’m obviously confused on environmental damage. One guy said pitting but I’ve seen that on normal coins that have not been damaged due too weather. I got a buffalo that has obviously burst from the inside out.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,882 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TPugmire said:
    Well I’m sorry I’m pretty new to coins in general. I’m sure most of you hang out a good majority of you’re days and would know that this coin wasn’t even worth getting graded.
    But just FYI it was a freebie with my vouchers. I don’t have many coins worth less than 2500.
    Soooo your right prolly wasn’t worth the postage but figured who cares atleast it’s one more in a slab. But some of you never even addressed the issue just useless banter.
    I’m obviously confused on environmental damage. One guy said pitting but I’ve seen that on normal coins that have not been damaged due too weather. I got a buffalo that has obviously burst from the inside out.

    The predominantly dark/blackish obverse looks environmentally damaged to me. It's not that the coin coin has taken on a patina, but rather that the surfaces have been damaged.

    "By definition, environmental damage is any serious and often permanent change to the surface metal of a coin. This type of damage occurs when surface metal oxidizes due to the interaction of chemicals and moisture in the immediate environment."

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have found if you take an oversized cotton ball (the kind your wife uses to apply makeup) and gently go over the coin it'll lift off the environmentally damaged layer (unless it has eaten into the coin surface) without ruining the toning. I have had most success with copper. The cotton ball turns black as the cotton fabric is strong enough to remove impurities yet not so as to disrupt the surface. I've had many coins labeled as such, treated, and returned in regular holders.

    peacockcoins

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! Does anyone know why Bill Dugan was banned?

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick,

    ED (environmental damage) HAS ALREADY eaten into the coin's surface. However, in many cases the corrosion (ED) which is found at the borders of beautifully toned rainbow coins is tolerated and ignored!

    BTW, the folks who point this out are considered to be ignorant crackpots. o:)

  • FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like there’s pitting on the obverse.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:
    Wow! Does anyone know why Bill Dugan was banned?

    Natural Selection at work? It may just be a vacation.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:

    @Hydrant said:
    Wow! Does anyone know why Bill Dugan was banned?

    Natural Selection at work? It may just be a vacation.

    Let's hope so.

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file