that was a terrible contract. I have never blamed a player for switching teams if they are offered more money/better situation for their family. I mean, if any of us were offered a significant upgrade in situation, would it be bad or unloyal for us to switch positions?
@craig44 said:
that was a terrible contract. I have never blamed a player for switching teams if they are offered more money/better situation for their family. I mean, if any of us were offered a significant upgrade in situation, would it be bad or unloyal for us to switch positions?
No but when you already have millions and are offered say a 10 million a year contract but refuse and go to a hated rival for 11 or 12 million a year it’s garbage and taints your legacy with your former team
@craig44 said:
that was a terrible contract. I have never blamed a player for switching teams if they are offered more money/better situation for their family. I mean, if any of us were offered a significant upgrade in situation, would it be bad or unloyal for us to switch positions?
No but when you already have millions and are offered say a 10 million a year contract but refuse and go to a hated rival for 11 or 12 million a year it’s garbage and taints your legacy with your former team
Who is to say how much is too much? people tend to spend to their income. think of players who need to cross picket lines because they have bills due. now, i am not saying Ellsbury was in any financial trouble, but he may have had future goals in mind. perhaps he had a family situation that new york was better suited for? who knows. Keep in mind how much money these guys pay in agent fees, personal trainers, taxes etc. It takes alot of money to be rich. not to even speak about the financial drain extended family members can have on a wealthy person.
I dont think anyone should say someone has enough money and should not try to maximize their earnings during a very short professional career.
the loyalty card can also swing both ways. Look at it in reverse. The Sox let a player leave for only an additional 1 to 2 million a year. they were not very loyal to their employee...
@craig44 said:
that was a terrible contract. I have never blamed a player for switching teams if they are offered more money/better situation for their family. I mean, if any of us were offered a significant upgrade in situation, would it be bad or unloyal for us to switch positions?
No but when you already have millions and are offered say a 10 million a year contract but refuse and go to a hated rival for 11 or 12 million a year it’s garbage and taints your legacy with your former team
To be fair, Jacoby's contract was for $21.85m a year, not 11 or 12. Your point remains the same though.
@craig44 said:
that was a terrible contract. I have never blamed a player for switching teams if they are offered more money/better situation for their family. I mean, if any of us were offered a significant upgrade in situation, would it be bad or unloyal for us to switch positions?
No but when you already have millions and are offered say a 10 million a year contract but refuse and go to a hated rival for 11 or 12 million a year it’s garbage and taints your legacy with your former team
Who is to say how much is too much? people tend to spend to their income. think of players who need to cross picket lines because they have bills due. now, i am not saying Ellsbury was in any financial trouble, but he may have had future goals in mind. perhaps he had a family situation that new york was better suited for? who knows. Keep in mind how much money these guys pay in agent fees, personal trainers, taxes etc. It takes alot of money to be rich. not to even speak about the financial drain extended family members can have on a wealthy person.
I dont think anyone should say someone has enough money and should not try to maximize their earnings during a very short professional career.
the loyalty card can also swing both ways. Look at it in reverse. The Sox let a player leave for only an additional 1 to 2 million a year. they were not very loyal to their employee...
Jacoby Ellsbury never appeared to be upset about collecting a paycheck for doing nothing. Good riddance.
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Normally ML teams have insurance coverage on players on large long term contracts. The Yankees probably recouped 50-80% minus premiums of Ellsbury's contract for the times he was on the disabled (now injured) list.
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I love it. The only players that really annoyed me when they signed with the Yankees were Boggs and Clemens
I really enjoyed Clemens time in Boston.
Knoblauch didn't work out too good either.
meh, they can afford it. He comes off the books next year. Suck it.
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Wouldn't it be too bad if Gerrit Cole turned out t be a flop?
YAWN
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What decline? He had exactly one good year at the plate in Boston. That one year was a ridiculous outlier. Terrible contract from the jump.
that was a terrible contract. I have never blamed a player for switching teams if they are offered more money/better situation for their family. I mean, if any of us were offered a significant upgrade in situation, would it be bad or unloyal for us to switch positions?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
No but when you already have millions and are offered say a 10 million a year contract but refuse and go to a hated rival for 11 or 12 million a year it’s garbage and taints your legacy with your former team
Who is to say how much is too much? people tend to spend to their income. think of players who need to cross picket lines because they have bills due. now, i am not saying Ellsbury was in any financial trouble, but he may have had future goals in mind. perhaps he had a family situation that new york was better suited for? who knows. Keep in mind how much money these guys pay in agent fees, personal trainers, taxes etc. It takes alot of money to be rich. not to even speak about the financial drain extended family members can have on a wealthy person.
I dont think anyone should say someone has enough money and should not try to maximize their earnings during a very short professional career.
the loyalty card can also swing both ways. Look at it in reverse. The Sox let a player leave for only an additional 1 to 2 million a year. they were not very loyal to their employee...
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
taxes are higher in New York , he probably netted less
YAWN to the whole thread.
Bad contracts and flops are a dime a dozen.
That is an odd comment. If a thread bores you, why would you spend the time to comment on it?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
The Red Sox are losing plenty of money at the moment on Rusney Castillo.
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To be fair, Jacoby's contract was for $21.85m a year, not 11 or 12. Your point remains the same though.
.. what hammer time said
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Good counter points
Who is Jacoby Ellsbury?
Are they about to learn anything? Giving baseball players 7 8 10 year deals is insane . hundreds of millions of guaranteed dollars
Yanks aren’t on the hook for much, actually...
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Jacoby Ellsbury never appeared to be upset about collecting a paycheck for doing nothing. Good riddance.
Plus everyone knows you don't name a kid so that both first and last names end in a Y , you just don't.
Its stupid , its like you are singing the name
Normally ML teams have insurance coverage on players on large long term contracts. The Yankees probably recouped 50-80% minus premiums of Ellsbury's contract for the times he was on the disabled (now injured) list.
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No, not interested either.