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My toned gold newp! Will she grade?

jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Just got this in today! Gorgeous purple/blue toning, mostly on the reverse. Tons of luster. A tiny bit of hairlines above the eagle on the reverse. Also, is that circular spot on the obverse a strike through? What do you think, will she grade?





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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it should grade.

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also think it will grade, unless they decide the circle is graffiti

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am no expert but I have my doubts. The circle on the obverse looks like graffiti to me. Are the edges raised?

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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg Do you think that is a strike through? And if so, a big enough one to grade as an error?

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 5, 2020 11:31AM

    Looks like a strike thru. However, it also l9oks like some starts-an-stops inside the depression which would indicate graffiti. You have the actual coin to check.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,329 ✭✭✭✭✭

    61 is what I'm thinking. Nice little coin! :)

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  • Winchester1873Winchester1873 Posts: 201 ✭✭✭✭

    I’ve seen some of the more knowledgeable folks on here suggest that iodine was applied when gold shows that color. Others have suggested leather pouch storage causes that deep purplish tone. As for me, I like like the color and sharp strike. Nice coin! Please keep us posted on the grade results!

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a strike through. It's either a piece of thread, wire or a short and curly hair.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    Looks like a strike through. It's either a piece of thread, wire or a short and curly hair.

    Botched omega? :D:D>:)

  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be a O, for obverse.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to say what that is.... Will leave that to the graders who will determine what to call it when in hand....The color bothers me... could well be iodine treated.... Please let us know what transpires at the TPG. Cheers, RickO

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The color looks perfect for natural toning, not splotchy like Iodine ones I've seen. Looks just like CACed pcgs toned gold I've had in the past

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a struck thru to me also.

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think no.

  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten I think you should send it to me for further evaluation. I believe you have my address... :#

    Cheers

    Bob

  • ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin. I thought it was a scratch, but it's nice to learn from the experts that it may not be.

  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am leaning towards the circle being a scratch/graffiti. It looks like there are a handful of pin marks or edges within the circle, like someone scratched it stopped, and started again several times. Tough to determine without more detailed pics.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 5, 2020 7:47PM

    @ShadyDave said:
    I am leaning towards the circle being a scratch/graffiti. It looks like there are a handful of pin marks or edges within the circle, like someone scratched it stopped, and started again several times. Tough to determine without more detailed pics.

    You gotta remember, this coin is the size of a dime, and the close up pictures I posted after my first post are pretty darn close up really. The circle is almost hard to see with the naked eye really, and I cannot even see the marks inside the line with a loupe. Also, the lines below the circle almost look raised here. Could they be die polish lines?

  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree that $2.5's are small coins, I actively collect them as well. As for whether the circle is damage or from the result of a strike-through, I'm not sure anyone will be able to tell from the pics or without having it in hand.

    The lines in between the stars definitely look like die polish.

  • Wahoo554Wahoo554 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten did you ever submit this one?

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool piece, but I’m guessing no on this one. Toned gold is a little worrisome to me. But if it were mine, I’d give it a try. Good luck!

    Dave

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  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any of those polish lines go across the circle unbroken?

  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the first two pics you posted I am skeptical that it will straight grade.

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No grade

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  • RedstoneCoinsRedstoneCoins Posts: 217 ✭✭✭

    That is graffiti. Not gradeable. Toning adds to the suspicion of its previous storage circumstances.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have not submitted it yet. I usually only submit once a year or so. Fred has already told me he believes it is a strike through, and the toning is good. Just like many of the other certified and CACed coins I've seen.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is a nice similar one in old NGC holder I am thinking about picking up.


  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice, you should pick it up, if the price is right !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe I am seeing graffiti on that coin ... so I'm going to say it will not grade.

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