Why Did the Tyrant choose to collect $10 Gold?

Gazes

The Tyrant's collection of $10 gold is jaw dropping. Does anyone know why he decided to collect $10 US gold? I know many of his other coins have a "tyrant" theme. Do we know if he collects any other US series?

GoBust

His three early proof Eagles of 1804, 1838 and 1839 were AMAZING!!!

edwardjulio

I, unfortunately, did not get to see the collection. It seems that Tyrant is collecting duplicates and even triplicates of the Gold Eagles.

Justacommeman

$10’s are big bad and take no prisoners

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amwldcoin

I don't know why...but I was always drawn to $5 + $10's over $20's!

segoja

I think he collects more than that

ironmanl63

There are some 10's to be had that have a low census for fair prices. I have been acquiring some recently. This example has a pop of 16 with 3 finer. It is also one of 2 top pop at CAC. Simpson Hall Pedigree.

Halfsense

The anonymous owner of The Tyrant Collection has assembled fabulous, wide-ranging sets of numismatic treasure from ancient to 20th century, both U.S. and world coins. There is more information about the amazing Tyrant Collection at the collection's official website: thetyrantcollection.com/

CoinJunkie

Because he could?

Wahoo554

Funny you mention this as this afternoon I just listened to the archived coinweek podcast interviewing Ira Goldberg about his help assembling the Tyrant Collection. My recollection from the podcast is that he started with US gold and then branched our from there to collect the coinage of the “tyrants”.

Gazes

@Wahoo554 said:
Funny you mention this as this afternoon I just listened to the archived coinweek podcast interviewing Ira Goldberg about his help assembling the Tyrant Collection. My recollection from the podcast is that he started with US gold and then branched our from there to collect the coinage of the “tyrants”.

Thanks. That is the first info I have heard that gives any insight on my OP. I have read his website and other information and it remained a mystery why he would have this amazing collection of ancients and world coins linked to "tyrants" but also the most amazing collection of $10 American gold put together. There seemed to be no rhyme or reason for the $10 gold. Do we know if collects any other series of US coins?

carabonnair

@Gazes said:
Do we know if collects any other series of US coins?

Well, the link above does show this:

Since this is the first of two exhibits that feature United States issues, I assume the next exhibit will be some other series...

Currin

Rumor... he has a pretty amazing early type set.

Gazes

@Currin said:
Rumor... he has a pretty amazing early type set.

Hope that is true....based upon his other coins, I am very excited to see the rest of his US collection.

Traz

Always liked $10 more than $20 for some reason and way more than lesser denominations. Personal preference?

MrEureka

@edwardjulio said:
I, unfortunately, did not get to see the collection. It seems that Tyrant is collecting duplicates and even triplicates of the Gold Eagles.

I noticed 6 1875 $10's. Three business strikes, three proofs. I assumed he just had a fetish for that date. Were there other cases of duplication and triplication?

Photoguy

His Type set is coming to the ANA in August. This includes the King of Siam Set.

csdot

Probably an obvious question, but what is the background on the choice of the name Tyrant?

(A) Collector's last name?

(B) ty•rant ►
n. An extremely oppressive, unjust, or cruel ruler.
n. An absolute ruler who governs without restrictions, especially one who seized power illegally.
n. An oppressive, harsh, arbitrary person.

TurtleCat

@csdot said:
Probably an obvious question, but what is the background on the choice of the name Tyrant?

(A) Collector's last name?

(B) ty•rant ►
n. An extremely oppressive, unjust, or cruel ruler.
n. An absolute ruler who governs without restrictions, especially one who seized power illegally.
n. An oppressive, harsh, arbitrary person.

My guess is that it was originally intended to be “the coins of the tyrants” and became shortened to The Tyrant Collection. But that’s just an uninformed guess.

Hydrant

I don't know why he choose to collect $10 gold. I never asked him and I'm not a mind reader. I'm just glad that he did. In my opinion...... his collection is just THE BEST.

yosclimber

Easy to answer.
1. It's gold
2. Larger than $1, $2.50, $3, $4
3. Goes back to 1795, unlike the $20. So there are more types, dates and varieties in the $10 series.

jmlanzaf

@yosclimber said:
Easy to answer.
1. It's gold
2. Larger than $1, $2.50, $3, $4
3. Goes back to 1795, unlike the $20. So there are more types, dates and varieties in the $10 series.

Easy to speculate. Has he ever said that?

yosclimber

It's purely my speculation.

Gazes

@Photoguy said:
His Type set is coming to the ANA in August. This includes the King of Siam Set.

I have heard his type set is spectacular. Cant wait to see it

jmlanzaf

@Gazes said:

@Photoguy said:
His Type set is coming to the ANA in August. This includes the King of Siam Set.

I have heard his type set is spectacular. Cant wait to see it

I would actually like to hear more from him. As I've said on this forum before, I think his collection puts to shame any current collection when you consider the totality of it. His non-U.S. material is simply unbelievable with more top pops and unique coins than his U.S. collection. But he's a bit of an enigma.

I do appreciate that he shares it with the world. I wish he would spend a couple thousand on a web designer. LOL. His site is a bit awkward to navigate.

tradedollarnut

@jmlanzaf said:

@yosclimber said:
Easy to answer.
1. It's gold
2. Larger than $1, $2.50, $3, $4
3. Goes back to 1795, unlike the $20. So there are more types, dates and varieties in the $10 series.

Easy to speculate. Has he ever said that?

Actually, in general, yes

https://www.coinbooks.org/v23/esylum_v23n18a13.html

yosclimber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_MSnldyDH0
(following TDN's statement and link)
At 1:14, John Dannreuther says:

He felt like the Eagle was the most important United States coin;
it was started to be struck in 1795, and was struck almost every year until 1933.

jmlanzaf

@tradedollarnut said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@yosclimber said:
Easy to answer.
1. It's gold
2. Larger than $1, $2.50, $3, $4
3. Goes back to 1795, unlike the $20. So there are more types, dates and varieties in the $10 series.

Easy to speculate. Has he ever said that?

Actually, in general, yes

https://www.coinbooks.org/v23/esylum_v23n18a13.html

Interesting. Makes sense. If you look at the way he's collected other countries, he likes runs of coins through history. I wonder if the gap from 1933 to 1986 bothers him. LOL.

Off_Cent_er

@csdot said:
Probably an obvious question, but what is the background on the choice of the name Tyrant?

(A) Collector's last name?

(B) ty•rant ►
n. An extremely oppressive, unjust, or cruel ruler.
n. An absolute ruler who governs without restrictions, especially one who seized power illegally.
n. An oppressive, harsh, arbitrary person.

So Tyrant also has an extensive ancient coin collection as well. Some amazing ancients of course. I read that they took the name after all the tyrants depicted on those coins. And obviously used the name "Tyrant" for anonymity.

Zoins

$10 gold eagles are a hard set.

It’s taking “slave to the set” to the next level, “slave to the tyrant”!

skier07

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cameonut2011

@Gazes said:
The Tyrant's collection of $10 gold is jaw dropping. Does anyone know why he decided to collect $10 US gold? I know many of his other coins have a "tyrant" theme. Do we know if he collects any other US series?

I can’t speak for him, but the $20 gold skips over the entire early federal period which is the most interesting part to a lot of collectors (myself included).

Zoins

@yosclimber said:
John Dannreuther said:
He felt like the Eagle was the most important United States coin;
it was started to be struck in 1795, and was struck almost every year until 1933.

Good find

yosclimber

@yosclimber said:
John Dannreuther said:
He felt like the Eagle was the most important United States coin;
it was started to be struck in 1795, and was struck almost every year until 1933.

@Zoins said:
Good find

I was just following up on what TDN had already described in that video.
I even watched most of that video recently, and I remembered the collection had a complete variety set of
the turban 10s, and this makes it a very cool set from my perspective.
I didn't remember that it contained Tyrant's reason for doing the set, though.

ricko

Incredibly beautiful set... and as stated, the only 'complete' variety set. Not to mention the condition of the coins. I am sure there are a few people who know the identity of the collector... obviously there must be, unless all purchases etc. have been done through agents. Cheers, RickO

SoCalBigMark

@Hydrant said:
I don't know why he choose to collect $10 gold. I never asked him and I'm not a mind reader. I'm just glad that he did. In my opinion...... his collection is just THE BEST.

Lets see the HYDRANT collection.

RedstoneCoins

Why did the Tyrant cross the road?

To the get the $10 gold Eagle on the other side!

Photoguy

Here is a couple from the Type set... just a tease though.

Floridafacelifter

Very nice! Show us more!