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New Variety? 1796 Pinocchio Half dime

pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,378 ✭✭✭✭

Not mine, and not associated with the seller. Saw this coin available for sale on eBay. Could this be a new "Pinocchio" variety? In all seriousness, the nose looks naturally made, but not sure I've seen any with the extra "bulb." What do you guys think?


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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Possibly caused by whatever bent the coin.

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  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting. Very cool variety. Remember dreaming about getting one when i was little, parousing the red book.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is a better date Barber half dollar also floating on ebay (at least it was recently) that is also in a PCGS slab and that has similar, yet somewhat more pronounced, damage on the nose.

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  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably wear on the nose that extended the light color slightly into the field to the right?
    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1796-h10c-likerty/images/4254

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2020 11:29AM

    I've seen that coin for sale for quite some time. I've never seen another like it. Something's going on there.

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  • santinidollarsantinidollar Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Likerty?

  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @santinidollar said:
    Likerty?

    From PCGS CoinFacts here:

    https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1796-h10c-likerty/4254

    Ron Guth:
    The 1796 Half Dime is the first year of the Draped Bust design type. It is a scarce date that it is at least as rare, if not more rare, than the 1794. Very few Mint State examples are known, the most notable of which is a single MS67 example that was first certified by PCGS in late 1989. The unusual "LIKERTY" variety was not a spelling error -- the "K" is actually a broken "B." The only other variety of this year is an overdate: 1796 over 5.

    Varieties (2): Valentine 1 - "LIKERTY" - Scarce Valentine 2 - 1796/5 - Very Rare

    Sources and/or recommended reading: "Federal Half Dimes 1792-1837" by Russell J. Logan and John W. McCloskey

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  • santinidollarsantinidollar Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WinLoseWin said:

    @santinidollar said:
    Likerty?

    From PCGS CoinFacts here:

    https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1796-h10c-likerty/4254

    Ron Guth:
    The 1796 Half Dime is the first year of the Draped Bust design type. It is a scarce date that it is at least as rare, if not more rare, than the 1794. Very few Mint State examples are known, the most notable of which is a single MS67 example that was first certified by PCGS in late 1989. The unusual "LIKERTY" variety was not a spelling error -- the "K" is actually a broken "B." The only other variety of this year is an overdate: 1796 over 5.

    Varieties (2): Valentine 1 - "LIKERTY" - Scarce Valentine 2 - 1796/5 - Very Rare

    Sources and/or recommended reading: "Federal Half Dimes 1792-1837" by Russell J. Logan and John W. McCloskey

    Learned something! Thanks.

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2020 5:50PM

    @santinidollar said:

    @WinLoseWin said:

    @santinidollar said:
    Likerty?

    From PCGS CoinFacts here:

    https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1796-h10c-likerty/4254

    Ron Guth:
    The 1796 Half Dime is the first year of the Draped Bust design type. It is a scarce date that it is at least as rare, if not more rare, than the 1794. Very few Mint State examples are known, the most notable of which is a single MS67 example that was first certified by PCGS in late 1989. The unusual "LIKERTY" variety was not a spelling error -- the "K" is actually a broken "B." The only other variety of this year is an overdate: 1796 over 5.

    Varieties (2): Valentine 1 - "LIKERTY" - Scarce Valentine 2 - 1796/5 - Very Rare

    Sources and/or recommended reading: "Federal Half Dimes 1792-1837" by Russell J. Logan and John W. McCloskey

    Learned something! Thanks.

    There is also the 1800 LIBEKTY Half Dime. A broken "R".

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  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WinLoseWin quoted Ron Guth from PCGS CoinFacts:
    ... The unusual "LIKERTY" variety was not a spelling error -- the "K" is actually a broken "B."

    It was in the Red Book for years as LIKERTY.
    But it turns out there are only gaps in the top and bottom of B on lower grade coins.
    You can see the top and bottom of B have thin connecting lines in the photo of the Pogue coin above.
    Perhaps the B punch was broken and the thin lines were a touch-up done by hand?
    We see this sort of touch-up done later on some 1871 half dimes - in the top of D of UNITED.


    The 1800 LM-3 "LIBEKTY" - the top of the R is open, even on high grade coins.

  • RINATIONALSRINATIONALS Posts: 171 ✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Possibly caused by whatever bent the coin.

    Bent? But it's in a straight graded holder!

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My impression, and I could be wrong, it that the nose issue is due to some slight handling damage.... Interesting, but not a mint issue. Cheers, RickO

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