@Kliao said:
Could someone explain to me what a partial collar is? I don’t really get it.......
From minterrornews.com:
"Partial collar strikes occur when there is a malfunction of the striking press. This causes the collar to be in an incorrect position. The lower die (usually the reverse die) is recessed in the collar. This allows the coin which is going to be struck to have a formed rim."
In other words, the collar isn't properly in place around the planchet before striking (e.g. the planchet might have been fed incorrectly?) and the coin is struck while only "partially" in the collar.
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Given the paucity of auction records, what would a good valuation for a piece like this be?
I've got a 1922 Peace dollar with tilted partial collar in 63. Picked it from a dealer's Morgan/Peace bin for melt, and didn't realize it was a tilted partial collar until I got home and realized the coin felt "odd."
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@RockyMtnProspector said:
Given the paucity of auction records, what would a good valuation for a piece like this be?
I've got a 1922 Peace dollar with tilted partial collar in 63. Picked it from a dealer's Morgan/Peace bin for melt, and didn't realize it was a tilted partial collar until I got home and realized the coin felt "odd."
Several hundreds? It's hard to put values on stuff that never shows up in the marketplace. I was looking at other Peace dollar errors and even mundane stuff like laminations get premiums. Rotated dies < 90° for several hundred for an AU common date. A cleaned, broadstruck 1921 Peace dollar went for over $7000 (and, boy, is it hammered). If you use $250 for a 1922 in AU53 in 2007 as a baseline and look at how that compares to similar Morgan dollar errors, which are more plentiful, you might be able to come up with a number for that coin today. I guess $800-1000 wouldn't surprise me, but I could be way off in either direction. The only way to find out for sure would be to let it go to auction. The 1922 in 63 could be even higher, although the severity of the error comes into play here. Maybe @FredWeinberg would have a comment.
@RockyMtnProspector said:
Given the paucity of auction records, what would a good valuation for a piece like this be?
I've got a 1922 Peace dollar with tilted partial collar in 63. Picked it from a dealer's Morgan/Peace bin for melt, and didn't realize it was a tilted partial collar until I got home and realized the coin felt "odd."
Several hundreds? It's hard to put values on stuff that never shows up in the marketplace. I was looking at other Peace dollar errors and even mundane stuff like laminations get premiums. Rotated dies < 90° for several hundred for an AU common date. A cleaned, broadstruck 1921 Peace dollar went for over $7000 (and, boy, is it hammered). If you use $250 for a 1922 in AU53 in 2007 as a baseline and look at how that compares to similar Morgan dollar errors, which are more plentiful, you might be able to come up with a number for that coin today. I guess $800-1000 wouldn't surprise me, but I could be way off in either direction. The only way to find out for sure would be to let it go to auction. The 1922 in 63 could be even higher, although the severity of the error comes into play here. Maybe @FredWeinberg would have a comment.
Thank you, that's a great explanation.
GSAs, OBW rolls, Seated, Walkers. Anything old and Colorado-focused, CO nationals.
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Tough error in any grade and probably like 1000 times rarer than any Morgan $1 PC.
I’ll take your rare branch mint dollar error in 58 and raise you
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Yep, don't see many Peace Dollar errors... and even fewer O mint gold errors....Cheers, RickO
Could someone explain to me what a partial collar is? I don’t really get it.......
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From minterrornews.com:
"Partial collar strikes occur when there is a malfunction of the striking press. This causes the collar to be in an incorrect position. The lower die (usually the reverse die) is recessed in the collar. This allows the coin which is going to be struck to have a formed rim."
In other words, the collar isn't properly in place around the planchet before striking (e.g. the planchet might have been fed incorrectly?) and the coin is struck while only "partially" in the collar.
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Tough coin! Heritage has sold one, count 'em, one partial collar Peace dollar. Ever. $250 in 2007 for an AU53 1922.
I wish yours didn't have the "algae growth" look to it, but I really like it.
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Nice partial collars. Easy to see without need to use magnifying glass.
What a keeper .... thank you for sharing
Those are neat!
Every coin in my collection was struck out of collar
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Wow. Much more rare than I thought. Thanks for the info.
Given the paucity of auction records, what would a good valuation for a piece like this be?
I've got a 1922 Peace dollar with tilted partial collar in 63. Picked it from a dealer's Morgan/Peace bin for melt, and didn't realize it was a tilted partial collar until I got home and realized the coin felt "odd."
Gonna get me a $50 Octagonal someday. Some. Day.
Several hundreds? It's hard to put values on stuff that never shows up in the marketplace. I was looking at other Peace dollar errors and even mundane stuff like laminations get premiums. Rotated dies < 90° for several hundred for an AU common date. A cleaned, broadstruck 1921 Peace dollar went for over $7000 (and, boy, is it hammered). If you use $250 for a 1922 in AU53 in 2007 as a baseline and look at how that compares to similar Morgan dollar errors, which are more plentiful, you might be able to come up with a number for that coin today. I guess $800-1000 wouldn't surprise me, but I could be way off in either direction. The only way to find out for sure would be to let it go to auction. The 1922 in 63 could be even higher, although the severity of the error comes into play here. Maybe @FredWeinberg would have a comment.
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Thank you, that's a great explanation.
Gonna get me a $50 Octagonal someday. Some. Day.