@PerryHall said:
I have some general questions for the Omega counterfeit coin experts. How does the metal content compare to mint specifications? Did the counterfeiters cheat on the gold content and if so, by how much? Does the Mexico 50 peso omega counterfeit gold coin have a hidden omega in the design and if so, where is it located? Thanks.
Of course I have no records of any weight or specific gravity readings I might have taken of these when I was at ANACS, but I do not remember any that were even of any concern.
As a rule the gold coin counterfeiters of this era (1960's-early 1980's) were very competent minters who got their weights and finenesses correct.
There is no Omega counterfeit Mexican 50 Pesos piece. There was just the allegation that the Omega $20's allegedly counterfeited in Arizona were struck on round discs punched out of ,900 fine gold Mexican 50 Pesos gold pieces. I consider this suggestion to be amazingly unlikely, as some of the original Mexican designs would have survived the overstrikings on the high areas of the High Relief $20 design.
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
That is a great idea. Furthermore, I should like to thank Heather for allowing me to join again as a new member after breaking the rules in spite of being warned at least twice.
I also want to thank all the members who left nice comments about me during the time I was banned. An especially funny discussion was the one I posted asking who do you miss. Then I was gone also. For those of you who were glad I was banned, I'm back and plan to stay. I'll look forward to learning new things about coins from each of you.
THANKS AGAIN!
PS I hope other banned members reading this attempt to seek Heather's pardon because I miss 99% of them.
Are you ready to extol the virtues of net grading?
@PerryHall said:
I have some general questions for the Omega counterfeit coin experts. How does the metal content compare to mint specifications? Did the counterfeiters cheat on the gold content and if so, by how much? Does the Mexico 50 peso omega counterfeit gold coin have a hidden omega in the design and if so, where is it located? Thanks.
I've never heard of that one (Omega 50P) although I have seen Counterfeit 50 Peso coins. Perhaps TTTT's story about using the gold from 50 Pesos has confused you.
@CaptHenway said:
Hey Skip. Have you ever seen a good x-ray analysis of the three Omega coins to see if the trace elements match?
To my knowledge, the only folks to analyze these coins are coin dealers with those new-fangled "guns." Someone here can do it. You have given me an idea, I'm going to take my "Omega" coins to a dealer with an x-ray gun. I'll see if he has a fifty Peso also.
PS That Gilroy Roberts stuff is crap!
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The desk-top XRF units are more accurate than the hand-held XRF "guns".
@PerryHall said:
I have some general questions for the Omega counterfeit coin experts. How does the metal content compare to mint specifications? Did the counterfeiters cheat on the gold content and if so, by how much? Does the Mexico 50 peso omega counterfeit gold coin have a hidden omega in the design and if so, where is it located? Thanks.
Of course I have no records of any weight or specific gravity readings I might have taken of these when I was at ANACS, but I do not remember any that were even of any concern.
As a rule the gold coin counterfeiters of this era (1960's-early 1980's) were very competent minters who got their weights and finenesses correct.
There is no Omega counterfeit Mexican 50 Pesos piece. There was just the allegation that the Omega $20's allegedly counterfeited in Arizona were struck on round discs punched out of ,900 fine gold Mexican 50 Pesos gold pieces. I consider this suggestion to be amazingly unlikely, as some of the original Mexican designs would have survived the overstrikings on the high areas of the High Relief $20 design.
This is the danger of fabrication. I'm sure there are now some people out there who think Gilroy Roberts was a counterfeiter.
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Of course I have no records of any weight or specific gravity readings I might have taken of these when I was at ANACS, but I do not remember any that were even of any concern.
As a rule the gold coin counterfeiters of this era (1960's-early 1980's) were very competent minters who got their weights and finenesses correct.
There is no Omega counterfeit Mexican 50 Pesos piece. There was just the allegation that the Omega $20's allegedly counterfeited in Arizona were struck on round discs punched out of ,900 fine gold Mexican 50 Pesos gold pieces. I consider this suggestion to be amazingly unlikely, as some of the original Mexican designs would have survived the overstrikings on the high areas of the High Relief $20 design.
Are you ready to extol the virtues of net grading?
Smitten with DBLCs.
I've never heard of that one (Omega 50P) although I have seen Counterfeit 50 Peso coins. Perhaps TTTT's story about using the gold from 50 Pesos has confused you.
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The desk-top XRF units are more accurate than the hand-held XRF "guns".
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This is the danger of fabrication. I'm sure there are now some people out there who think Gilroy Roberts was a counterfeiter.