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Anyone have a "Regulated" coin from the early days?

topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

If so, would you post it?
I've been in the doldrums but just saw an article on colonial regulated coins and started getting some juices going again.

??????

Regulated coins are generally foreign gold adjusted to US standard and counterstamped by whoever did the adjustments.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have you talked to member “Regulated” on here?

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 22, 2020 8:43AM

    See the attached file.
    Also see the Edward Roehrs Collection of United States Regulated Gold (2010 Heritage catalog).

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I followed this one that appeared on ebay last year, but the bidding went beyond my budget at the time.
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1015790/brasher-2-gold

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At Long Beach show I saw pic of a coin that blew me away ........cannot divulge at this time .....suffice it to say a article is being written.

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  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Regulated" coins are coins that have been examined by a trusted expert to assess its value purely based upon the bullion value of the coin. Sometimes a portion of the coin would be cut off, so that it would be a precise value at a lesser amount of bullion, and sometimes plugs of different sizes may be inserted in the coin to bring it up to a precise value at a larger amount of bullion, such as this one:

    While these coins were clearly altered after they were struck, these are highly sought after in the coin market, and bring BIG money!

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cardinal said:
    "Regulated" coins are coins that have been examined by a trusted expert to assess its value purely based upon the bullion value of the coin. Sometimes a portion of the coin would be cut off, so that it would be a precise value at a lesser amount of bullion, and sometimes plugs of different sizes may be inserted in the coin to bring it up to a precise value at a larger amount of bullion, such as this one:

    While these coins were clearly altered after they were struck, these are highly sought after in the coin market, and bring BIG money!

    Who was GS ?

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    I give away money. I collect money.
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  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 22, 2020 5:50PM

    @bidask said:

    @cardinal said:
    "Regulated" coins are coins that have been examined by a trusted expert to assess its value purely based upon the bullion value of the coin. Sometimes a portion of the coin would be cut off, so that it would be a precise value at a lesser amount of bullion, and sometimes plugs of different sizes may be inserted in the coin to bring it up to a precise value at a larger amount of bullion, such as this one:

    While these coins were clearly altered after they were struck, these are highly sought after in the coin market, and bring BIG money!

    Who was GS ?

    When it was sold 3 years ago, Heritage could not identify GS, but the coin sold for big money. (It was certified by NGC, and encapsulated as such.)

  • OGDanOGDan Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Of sorts...

    I know it's not what you meant, but in a way very similar.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cardinal....What was the purpose of the three omega stamps on the obverse? Or is that also unknown? Cheers, RickO

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @cardinal....What was the purpose of the three omega stamps on the obverse? Or is that also unknown? Cheers, RickO

    Those are G’s.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well I'll be darned.... @CaptHenway ...You are, of course, correct.... I didn't look at them correctly....Thanks...Cheers, RickO

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @cardinal....What was the purpose of the three omega stamps on the obverse? Or is that also unknown? Cheers, RickO

    It was probably to prevent clipping which was a common practice with gold coins at this time.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Decades ago, I handled one "Regulated" coin while at the Certification Service in DC. It was a Portuguese gold coin with the Brasher counter stamp. It took several months to certify including hands-on MICROSCOPIC comparisons to the stamps on other Brasher pieces held in museums.

    Apparently today, there are many "Regulated" coins in the market that are fakes. One TPGS got seriously burned on these coins. I believe they relied on the outside opinion of "experts." Personally, I would not trust the opinion of any TPGS or auction house in the US on these coins UNLESS I knew what/how/and who went into the final certification.

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