Is anyone familiar with this particular mint proof set?

1992coin

Hello again I received a lot of help with my last post and I'm hoping this one should be a little more exciting to see. This is a United States Mint Proof Set-1990, these seem common enough, but the thing is my set actually contains the 1990 no mint mark penny. I can find the sets and I can find the penny by itself but I have not yet found another set that contains this penny:



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I will take some better pictures at some point. Any thoughts on this piece?

CaptHenway

The set has been opened and a normal Philadelphia Mint uncirculated cent placed where the 1990-S cent was to defraud people.

291fifth

Yep, someone needed a proof cent for their album and switched coins. They then dumped this set, probably without making notice of the switch. The plastic holder looks like it has been roughly handled. Avoid sets with problem holders. There are PLENTY of sets with problem free holders available.

robec

@1992coin said:
Interesting. So is the penny inside this set a genuine 1990 no mint mark error penny?

No. The cent is an uncirculated coin, not a proof. Someone has opened the set and replaced the proof with a non proof. The Lincoln inside the set is a normal Philadelphia cent........not an error.

jmlanzaf

@1992coin said:
Interesting. So is the penny inside this set a genuine 1990 no mint mark error penny?

1990 Philadelphia coins do NOT have mint marks. So the cent inside is a genuine 1990 cent that is NOT supposed to have a mint mark

jmlanzaf

@ChrisH821 said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@ChrisH821 said:
If on ebay please report it, that is not a proof cent. If you bought it for any premium at all, get your money back.

@291fifth said:
Yep, someone needed a proof cent for their album and switched coins. They then dumped this set, probably without making notice of the switch. The plastic holder looks like it has been roughly handled. Avoid sets with problem holders. There are PLENTY of sets with problem free holders available.

Someone wants an uneducated buyer to think they are getting a 1990 no S proof set.

eBay? Who said eBay?

No one, hence the "if" in my statement.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think this is the first time we've seen these pictures.

He said on the other thread he started that he inherited a collection.

jmlanzaf

@1992coin said:
Also. How can I tell if these sets have been opened or tampered with? I was told the case would shatter. Thank you everyone!

It is not that hard to open the sets, just takes care.

We can tell it has been tampered with because there is a business strike coin in a proof set. That cannot happen any other way than be replacing the S-mint proof cent that used to be in that hole with a circulations strike.

AUandAG

I snagged one like yours off ebay just so that nobody would get hurt. Still have the pics:

ricko

I just noticed that the magnification option is back by clicking on the picture. Probably been back a while, but I just noticed it... Yippee.... Cheers, RickO

ChrisH821

If on ebay please report it, that is not a proof cent. If you bought it for any premium at all, get your money back.

@291fifth said:
Yep, someone needed a proof cent for their album and switched coins. They then dumped this set, probably without making notice of the switch. The plastic holder looks like it has been roughly handled. Avoid sets with problem holders. There are PLENTY of sets with problem free holders available.

Someone wants an uneducated buyer to think they are getting a 1990 no S proof set.

jmlanzaf

@ChrisH821 said:
If on ebay please report it, that is not a proof cent. If you bought it for any premium at all, get your money back.

@291fifth said:
Yep, someone needed a proof cent for their album and switched coins. They then dumped this set, probably without making notice of the switch. The plastic holder looks like it has been roughly handled. Avoid sets with problem holders. There are PLENTY of sets with problem free holders available.

Someone wants an uneducated buyer to think they are getting a 1990 no S proof set.

eBay? Who said eBay?

1992coin

Interesting. So is the penny inside this set a genuine 1990 no mint mark error penny?

1992coin

Also. How can I tell if these sets have been opened or tampered with? I was told the case would shatter. Thank you everyone!

ChrisH821

@jmlanzaf said:

@ChrisH821 said:
If on ebay please report it, that is not a proof cent. If you bought it for any premium at all, get your money back.

@291fifth said:
Yep, someone needed a proof cent for their album and switched coins. They then dumped this set, probably without making notice of the switch. The plastic holder looks like it has been roughly handled. Avoid sets with problem holders. There are PLENTY of sets with problem free holders available.

Someone wants an uneducated buyer to think they are getting a 1990 no S proof set.

eBay? Who said eBay?

No one, hence the "if" in my statement.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think this is the first time we've seen these pictures.

291fifth

This whole "error" business is really getting out of control. Newbies please note: You are not going to get rich finding minor "errors". Most of what is being shown are not errors at all and most of the others are too minor to be of any interest.

1992coin

I'm not treasure hunting @291fifth I inherited a large set and I'm just trying to learn about it so far everyone has been extremely helpful thank you.

CaptHenway

@1992coin said:
Interesting. So is the penny inside this set a genuine 1990 no mint mark error penny?

No, it is a perfectly normal 1990 Philadelphia Mint business strike coin. THey do not have mint marks on them.

davewesen

those no S proof cents are worth a lot

https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1990-1c-no-s-dcam/93506

Texast

@291fifth said:
This whole "error" business is really getting out of control. Newbies please note: You are not going to get rich finding minor "errors". Most of what is being shown are not errors at all and most of the others are too minor to be of any interest.

Seems to be a flood this past week.

Smudge

@Texast said:

@291fifth said:
This whole "error" business is really getting out of control. Newbies please note: You are not going to get rich finding minor "errors". Most of what is being shown are not errors at all and most of the others are too minor to be of any interest.

Seems to be a flood this past week.

This year.

lkeigwin

@1992coin said:
Interesting. So is the penny inside this set a genuine 1990 no mint mark error penny?

If it looked like this it would be a real "no-S" San Francisco minted proof. But it doesn't. Instead it is an ordinary Philly-minted business strike cent.

As mentioned above someone tampered with the set.
Lance.