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JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

I purchased a Barber Quarter from eBay; the listing had terrible out of focus photos. Why did I buy it? You never know and returns were accepted.

It arrived in the mail today:




My gut tells me this was a former broach with a pin soldered on the obverse, but is there any chance this is a lamination error? Struck thru?

I love them Barber Halves.....

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    TexastTexast Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 10, 2020 8:25PM

    I wish I had an answer, interesting. Well at least it's not a nother parking lot pennies post.

    The pin broach may fit with the repeated scratching if the surface in that one area.

    I would send it back, does the seller have other clear pictures on other auctions?

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    bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree. Looks like had some sort of clasp on it. May have been readjusted over time cause the scratches on the sides. I'm saying PMD.

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    TradesWithChopsTradesWithChops Posts: 640 ✭✭✭✭

    there is damage on the other edge, too - which looks like ex-jewelry to me.

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    OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2020 1:18AM

    It's definitely damaged. If the pics were fuzzy and it wasn't easy to see it it wasn't in the description, I would send it back and no longer purchase from that seller

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like someone scraped gunk off of it with a nail, but left some behind. Return post haste.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD.

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    EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damaged - return

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks to be ex-jewelry

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    tincuptincup Posts: 5,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have to go with the post mint damage crowd.

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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree that on first appearance it looks like PMD, but there are definitely portions of the coins original outer surfaces peeled off, as in a lamination. On the left side there are still separation areas visible. Also, there is no "excess" material on the coin (raised areas), only depressions. Even the "scratches" are just depressions- nothing raised.

    Perhaps if one used a silver solder it might melt into the coins surface, but what might cause the current lamination areas? I find this coin puzzling.

    Yes, I can return it and most likely will. It wasn't that expensive, however, so I want to be confident it's PMD before returning.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought that at 1st glance at your smaller pictures. It is certainly ex-jewelry and what looks like a lamination is where the clasp was soldered on the coin and then removed.

    @JeffMTampa said:
    I agree that on first appearance it looks like PMD, but there are definitely portions of the coins original outer surfaces peeled off, as in a lamination. On the left side there are still separation areas visible. Also, there is no "excess" material on the coin (raised areas), only depressions. Even the "scratches" are just depressions- nothing raised.

    Perhaps if one used a silver solder it might melt into the coins surface, but what might cause the current lamination areas? I find this coin puzzling.

    Yes, I can return it and most likely will. It wasn't that expensive, however, so I want to be confident it's PMD before returning.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can understand why it may be perceived as a delamination on the left side (as viewed), however, the PMD is severe, and likely due to removal from jewelry... this removal, done improperly - as it appears - likely caused all the damage. Cheers, RickO

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,250 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jewelry coin. Strictly post mint damage. Return it if you can.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 34,815 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks like pmd to me as well

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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The experts have spoken- back it goes.

    I love them Barber Halves.....

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