not Sure the 68 rattler barber quarter is really a good example of cac vs noncac!
Better to compare coins from the same auctions in similar-vintage holders, which there were a few. Nicer coins will always bring more.
I’d be curious whether people think that this bifurcation has had more positive value for cac coins of more negative value for noncac? Or is it pretty even?
@scubafuel said:
not Sure the 68 rattler barber quarter is really a good example of cac vs noncac!
Better to compare coins from the same auctions in similar-vintage holders, which there were a few. Nicer coins will always bring more.
I’d be curious whether people think that this bifurcation has had more positive value for cac coins of more negative value for noncac? Or is it pretty even?
No one will ever really be able to tell you for sure. I use CAC and have learned a lot from them, however, quality coins will always bring strong money. Is it the CAC sticker bring the strong prices or is the COIN in the holder that happens to have a CAC sticker. Chicken/Egg question....
@scubafuel said:
not Sure the 68 rattler barber quarter is really a good example of cac vs noncac!
Better to compare coins from the same auctions in similar-vintage holders, which there were a few. Nicer coins will always bring more.
I’d be curious whether people think that this bifurcation has had more positive value for cac coins of more negative value for noncac? Or is it pretty even?
No one will ever really be able to tell you for sure. I use CAC and have learned a lot from them, however, quality coins will always bring strong money. Is it the CAC sticker bring the strong prices or is the COIN in the holder that happens to have a CAC sticker. Chicken/Egg question....
I'm going to guess it's predominantly the sticker. It's not any different than perception of whether a coin will upgrade in its current holder. I'll admit this is a cynical response but its due to my concurrent belief that most of this is driven by perception of marketability.
There is a large segment of the coin collector market that really cannot grade or have limited abilities. This segment depends on slabs and stickers. An aura of mystique has evolved around the sticker as well...and, perhaps justified to some extent. There is no doubt that the green sticker will command some premium in today's market. Whether it affects non-stickered coins values is debatable. Some will seek slabs without a sticker, hoping for a bargain...While others (a small segment) will not consider a slab without a sticker - much like those who will not buy a raw coin. It has been interesting to watch over the years.. The advent of the sticker brought questions and even scorn... it has since evolved into a decided value and for some, required. Cheers, RickO
Stickered coins separate inventory class based on their bid in the sheet. Their premium above non stickered will vary. For coins below 63 a moot issue as don’t see any CAC bids in this area.
Non stickered material no problem moving. Many coins will never be stickered (unless some rare instance) like generic 63-65 Morgan’s, walkers bc CAC premium does not justify cost. Mods or world not affected either.
As I do mods, world, currency in addition to USA classic, the sticker thing not a factor in what I really do. In shopping for gold coins I pick out nice slabbed ones close to melt whether mods, world, US.
To be successful in RCI one needs good grading, pricing skills, knowing how pick out nice coins, market awareness, and common sense (not being end user who paid too much). Whether CAC coins or not I price A,B,C coins at a different markup vs bid (A highest).
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not Sure the 68 rattler barber quarter is really a good example of cac vs noncac!
Better to compare coins from the same auctions in similar-vintage holders, which there were a few. Nicer coins will always bring more.
I’d be curious whether people think that this bifurcation has had more positive value for cac coins of more negative value for noncac? Or is it pretty even?
News or advertising?
not news, a sneaky ad IMO.
No one will ever really be able to tell you for sure. I use CAC and have learned a lot from them, however, quality coins will always bring strong money. Is it the CAC sticker bring the strong prices or is the COIN in the holder that happens to have a CAC sticker. Chicken/Egg question....
I'm going to guess it's predominantly the sticker. It's not any different than perception of whether a coin will upgrade in its current holder. I'll admit this is a cynical response but its due to my concurrent belief that most of this is driven by perception of marketability.
There is a large segment of the coin collector market that really cannot grade or have limited abilities. This segment depends on slabs and stickers. An aura of mystique has evolved around the sticker as well...and, perhaps justified to some extent. There is no doubt that the green sticker will command some premium in today's market. Whether it affects non-stickered coins values is debatable. Some will seek slabs without a sticker, hoping for a bargain...While others (a small segment) will not consider a slab without a sticker - much like those who will not buy a raw coin. It has been interesting to watch over the years.. The advent of the sticker brought questions and even scorn... it has since evolved into a decided value and for some, required. Cheers, RickO
Stickered coins separate inventory class based on their bid in the sheet. Their premium above non stickered will vary. For coins below 63 a moot issue as don’t see any CAC bids in this area.
Non stickered material no problem moving. Many coins will never be stickered (unless some rare instance) like generic 63-65 Morgan’s, walkers bc CAC premium does not justify cost. Mods or world not affected either.
As I do mods, world, currency in addition to USA classic, the sticker thing not a factor in what I really do. In shopping for gold coins I pick out nice slabbed ones close to melt whether mods, world, US.
To be successful in RCI one needs good grading, pricing skills, knowing how pick out nice coins, market awareness, and common sense (not being end user who paid too much). Whether CAC coins or not I price A,B,C coins at a different markup vs bid (A highest).
I enjoy my CAC coins and like the values. I think CAC will almost always bring a premium.