1909 vdb vdb
Easy1984
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Could anyone help me out withWhat grade will this come back with
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Easy1984
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Nice Lincoln but IMHO, the answer is - a grade not worth the slabbing fee.
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase/2819
No good answer can be given without pics of both sides, however as the obv appears in AU condition it would cost more than the coin is worth.
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Really need better pics.
Something in the XF/AU range, but the mottled color seems suspect though the photo is too poor to be definitive.
Either way, even a solid AU coin isn't worth the price of submission.
Save your money. It is not worth enough to warrant the cost of slabbing.
That might be a $10 coin. There are many that are better.
I thought all mintstate 1909vdb matte proofs have value.,?
Matte Proofs, YES! Better pics needed to determine that. From what I see, maybe that rim does look flat?🙄
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--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.What makes you think this is a matte proof?
Collector, occasional seller
We will need much better pictures to confirm if it is matte proof....Cheers, RickO
I disagree. I am extremely confident that is not a matte proof.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld ....I yield to your expertise Mark....coin pictures being what they are - and that one in particular, make some determinations difficult...and for me, that one just does not indicate a matte proof, but is not a good picture. Thanks for your input ....Cheers, RickO
30k isn't worth slabbing
Here is better picture
The coin is neither a mint state business strike nor a Proof.
It’s probably worth less than $10 and definitely worth less than the cost of grading. If anyone replies and suggests that it’s worth getting graded, they’re either being facetious, trying to teach you a lesson or aren’t knowledgeable enough to be giving advice.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
The OPs tone in this thread sounds kind of Trollish.
@Easy1984 why didn't you say that you believed this was a matte proof in your initial post? You obviously know that this is a very rare coin and it would be called out. At minimum, you could have posted pics of the die characteristics and markers that make you believe it's a MP. Also, if you are familiar with MP Lincolns, you should also know that some early business strike Lincolns are known to display sharp strikes that can be confused with MP.
Just wondering
Well just let us know what it comes back from PCGS as. I doubt we'll be hearing any follow up though, just like the last 10 or so "Matte Proofs" that people just knew they had.
Collector, occasional seller
Oh mannn. I just noticed you also have a 1969-S DDO AND a 1958 DDO.....
Guess we should all just stay out of your way then
Collector, occasional seller
Some guys have all the luck.
I wish I had that type of luck (as some of the others do here)
Literally no one that I know of actually has that kind of luck. There’s nothing lucky in wishing, thinking or claiming that you have something you don’t really have.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Proof of reality!! 🥇Too all the jelly
WELL !!?!?
No reasons for disbelief or disrespectful comments here guys.
$5 for the VDB........maybe. 5¢ for the other two typical circulation Lincoln's. No MPL and definitely no DDO's.
1969-S DDO - Check out the LIBERTY in yours compared to the real thing.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
I've seen this movie.
Smitten with DBLCs.
If (without blinders on and dollar signs in your eyes) you view pictures of graded examples of the 1958 and 1969-S DDO cents, you should easily see that they are very different from your coins. Yours are clearly lacking the conspicuous doubling that true DDO’s exhibit.
It appears that either you’re lazy and haven’t spent any time on research, you’re unwilling to acknowledge reality or you’re a troll. Either way, I’m done with this thread and other similar ones.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I would recommend submitting all three, express service.
As we all know what's here !! I will have pcgs do the rest. Thanks for all the response and help ..
Make sure to come back and post your grading results. Bet you won't
So I had this draft saved in your 1958 DDO thread that I previously decided not to post, but I'll go ahead and put it in here since this is the active thread and maybe it will help you.
You don't seem to understand the coin making process...
A given doubled die, 1958 DDO#1 for example, does not have variations in amount of doubling. Every coin made from that die is exactly the same. The reason it's called a doubled die is that the doubling is on the die that made the coins.
When the design was pressed into the die from the hub, it was done in two or more steps, if the die wasn't correctly aligned for the second or later impressions then it creates a doubled die. All coins made from that die have the same doubling characteristics.
Now if after knowing that and you still think all of us are wrong, tell us how this
or this
looks like this
The only correct answer is: "It doesn't"
Collector, occasional seller
@ChrisH821
"Now if after knowing that and you still think all of us are wrong, tell us how this or this looks like this"
You aren't drinking enough.
Best of everything on your submission
Sounds like a user on another forum about a year ago, who kept posting blurry photos of claimed doubled die errors. He even used the same spiel when replying (like the one quoted above). He was finally "poofed" after a few months. Hopefully, this troll doesn't last that long here.
Just got done with the submission form thanks much appreciated> @ChrisH821 said:
Focusing
Thanks
Correct answers
Make sure to come back and post your grading results. Bet you won't
Coins won't be submitted for grading. The 1909 V.D.B is...wth, it's not even a 1909 V.D.B...a $4 coin as it appears to have "not original" surfaces. The other two are 2 cents each and the dealer would have to be in a good mood to even pay that.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
👍Great idea!!! Thanks
ah, that is why his post's title:
1909 vdb vdb
He thought it was a Doubled Die VDB!
To match the others
BHNC #203
Guess the OP is not going to send his coin in to get graded after all....
WS
https://ebay.com/itm/1909-VDB-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-1c/293474940388?hash=item44547835e4:g:juYAAOSwGPFeRcZx
Another fraudster.....hope no one falls for it.
How does anyone even know it's a VDB? There is a photo of the reverse, but it doesn't include the bottom part of the coin.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
That guy has a future in the coin biz.
Handcuffs.
Just don't get mad at PCGS when they send the coins back not graded how you thought they would, or better yet what you thought they were, especially when many here were telling you beforehand.
OP is now selling the coin as a VDB MPL starting at $500.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293474940388?ul_noapp=true
He has added a new photo that shows the VDB. Note that the dot between the D and B is not centered, which makes this a business strike not a proof. All proof VDB's have the dot centered between the D and B.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
Scam from the start.