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What is your ultimate non-existent fantasy U.S. coin?

CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,201 ✭✭✭✭✭

Inspired by the U.S. coins struck on other coins thread. Jokers are wild and the sky's the limit!

Just thought of the ultimate non-existent fantasy U.S. coin: a 1794 Dollar trial piece struck on a portrait 8 Reales with a readable 1776 date!

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can we set a rule that says thst the coin could realistically exist? So, for example, a 1964 Franklin would be a valid answer, but a 1792 Chain Cent would not.

    Andy Lustig

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    carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the Mint had bothered to do one mill coins

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    mcarney1173mcarney1173 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1815 Large Cent
    1931 Quarter

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    drfishdrfish Posts: 955 ✭✭✭✭

    A real deal 64D Peace dollar

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A Morgan Dollar struck on a double eagle planchet would be really cool. This is theoretically possible since there are a very small number of small cents struck on quarter eagle planchets.

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    NSPNSP Posts: 322 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1816, 1817, and 1826 quarters.

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    mark_dakmark_dak Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1879 or 1880 Flowing Hair $4 Gold Stella... I'm not picky!

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mark_dak said:
    1879 or 1880 Flowing Hair $4 Gold Stella... I'm not picky!

    I don't think these qualify as being fantasy coins.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just 1 or 2 more 1870s $3 gold.

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    mark_dakmark_dak Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @mark_dak said:
    1879 or 1880 Flowing Hair $4 Gold Stella... I'm not picky!

    I don't think these qualify as being fantasy coins.

    Oops! Didn't read the question correctly but they are a fantasy!

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The $100 Union gold coin would be a great fantasy coin. These were proposed but never produced. The mint did make a few $50 Half Union patterns though.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    Can we set a rule that says thst the coin could realistically exist? So, for example, a 1964 Franklin would be a valid answer, but a 1792 Chain Cent would not.

    Kill joy! That ruled out my St. Gaudens EXHR $50 Slug in PR-70 DCAM.

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1916 barber half

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    KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Graders need to consider adding so many I can’t list just one

    Best place to buy !
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    The $100 Union gold coin would be a great fantasy coin. These were proposed but never produced. The mint did make a few $50 Half Union patterns though.

    There is a 5 oz gold one already.

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,776 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A 1938-D Jefferson obverse with a Buffalo reverse.

    Pete

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @PerryHall said:
    The $100 Union gold coin would be a great fantasy coin. These were proposed but never produced. The mint did make a few $50 Half Union patterns though.

    There is a 5 oz gold one already.

    As far as I know the $100 Union was never produced. Can you provide some documentation?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1917 Matt Proof Lincoln Cent. :D

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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1908 S VDB Lincoln cent

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    AlanLastufkaAlanLastufka Posts: 188 ✭✭✭✭

    I want a 1999-W Gold Sacagawea with the detailed/Cheerios reverse. (I know twelve examples exist from 2000 but you can't own them, so to make it a true non-existent fantasy, I went with the previous year when the Cheerios dollars were struck.)

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    ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not to bend the rules, but I love to see a 1793 proof set with all the denominations that were intended at the time.

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    dogwooddogwood Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭

    I keep saying it, a 1904S Barber Quarter would be cool. Of course I imagine it having a mintage of 8,000 just to cover a rounding error.

    We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2020 8:08PM

    @PerryHall said:

    @Zoins said:

    @PerryHall said:
    The $100 Union gold coin would be a great fantasy coin. These were proposed but never produced. The mint did make a few $50 Half Union patterns though.

    There is a 5 oz gold one already.

    As far as I know the $100 Union was never produced. Can you provide some documentation?


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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1969 D 5c FS MS70

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2020 9:37PM

    A 1982 DDO severely damaged Hydrant Cent with a Wal-Mart parking lot provence and a green bean!

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2020 8:42PM

    @CaptHenway said:
    Just thought of the ultimate non-existent fantasy U.S. coin: a 1794 Dollar trial piece struck on a portrait 8 Reales with a readable 1776 date!

    I don't know anyone who would do that. If you do, let us know!

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    kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A 2020 Pilgrim half dollar reissue would be nice!

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For me, a genuine 64-D Peace dollar..... that I could actually own, without government nonsense. That'd be just fine.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,201 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Just thought of the ultimate non-existent fantasy U.S. coin: a 1794 Dollar trial piece struck on a portrait 8 Reales with a readable 1776 date!

    I don't know anyone who would do that. If you do, let us know!

    I’m talking struck in 1794 at Ye Olde Mint! They did a copper trial strike; why not a silver one!

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    CaptainBluntCaptainBlunt Posts: 212 ✭✭✭

    A little off topic
    An 1861 D half dollar
    I remember reading a newspaper article from 1865 mentioning the
    property belonging to the
    Dahlonega Mint. Included in the list were 6 half eagle dies, six quarter eagle dies and one half dollar die.

    I suppose they meant a gold dollar die. Anyway an 1861 Dahl silver half dollar
    fantasy coin would be cool

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Zoins said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Just thought of the ultimate non-existent fantasy U.S. coin: a 1794 Dollar trial piece struck on a portrait 8 Reales with a readable 1776 date!

    I don't know anyone who would do that. If you do, let us know!

    I’m talking struck in 1794 at Ye Olde Mint! They did a copper trial strike; why not a silver one!

    No Stars, right?

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2020 11:42PM

    My 1869-CC Seated $. Afraid to show it to anyone or send for grading. Hate to lose it. Told Linda to just bury me with it.

    bob ;)

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    ernie11ernie11 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    An 1870-S quarter.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @Zoins said:

    @PerryHall said:
    The $100 Union gold coin would be a great fantasy coin. These were proposed but never produced. The mint did make a few $50 Half Union patterns though.

    There is a 5 oz gold one already.

    As far as I know the $100 Union was never produced. Can you provide some documentation?


    When I suggested a gold $100 Union, I was talking about a pattern coin that was actually produced by the US Mint. The coin that you show is certainly neat but was privately made and was not made by the US Mint. Nice big chunk of gold there.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2020 3:21AM

    @PerryHall said:

    @Zoins said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @Zoins said:

    @PerryHall said:
    The $100 Union gold coin would be a great fantasy coin. These were proposed but never produced. The mint did make a few $50 Half Union patterns though.

    There is a 5 oz gold one already.

    As far as I know the $100 Union was never produced. Can you provide some documentation?


    When I suggested a gold $100 Union, I was talking about a pattern coin that was actually produced by the US Mint. The coin that you show is certainly neat but was privately made and was not made by the US Mint. Nice big chunk of gold there.

    D’oh!

    It was hard to tell your intention as this thread is about fantasy coins as mentioned in the title. I do this this qualifies as a “fantasy U.S. coin”.

    As for being made privately, it was minted by the New York Mint.

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    GotTheBugGotTheBug Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lincoln cent with a Flying Eagle reverse, using the original Flying Eagle cent's obverse design.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1834 Capped Bust Dollar! The coin that should have been made instead of the 1804. Slightly more detail and relief on the bust and the eagle, not just a magnified version of the half dollar design. A small "RL" monogram on the clasp on the obverse, because Ron Landis would be the ideal engraver to execute this.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,201 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Zoins said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Just thought of the ultimate non-existent fantasy U.S. coin: a 1794 Dollar trial piece struck on a portrait 8 Reales with a readable 1776 date!

    I don't know anyone who would do that. If you do, let us know!

    I’m talking struck in 1794 at Ye Olde Mint! They did a copper trial strike; why not a silver one!

    No Stars, right?

    Either one would work for me.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,201 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ernie11 said:
    An 1870-S quarter.

    A little birdie told me that they know where the cornerstone is.....

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    WhippersnapperWhippersnapper Posts: 113 ✭✭
    edited February 7, 2020 6:46AM

    I never really thought about it before, but the thought that comes to my head is a golden ha'penny. I think that would be interesting.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2020 6:55AM

    @messydesk said:
    1834 Capped Bust Dollar! The coin that should have been made instead of the 1804. Slightly more detail and relief on the bust and the eagle, not just a magnified version of the half dollar design. A small "RL" monogram on the clasp on the obverse, because Ron Landis would be the ideal engraver to execute this.

    That would be nice!

    Edited to add: And an 1834 Classic Head $10!

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    Nevermind, its not US and it exists lol

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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Flying Eagle large cent

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2020 7:45AM

    Delete

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1816 Capped Bust half dollar ... it drives the compulsive collector crazy that 1816 coins were not struck!

    And make that coin an O.102b ... so there are at least two die marriages and a few die states. Oh yeah ... ! :)

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    Can we set a rule that says thst the coin could realistically exist? So, for example, a 1964 Franklin would be a valid answer, but a 1792 Chain Cent would not.

    What about a 1792 Chain Franklin half? ;)

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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @astrorat said:
    1816 Capped Bust half dollar ... it drives the compulsive collector crazy that 1816 coins were not struck!

    And make that coin an O.102b ... so there are at least two die marriages and a few die states. Oh yeah ... ! :)

    Large cent collectors do not have this problem. Ours occurred a year earlier.

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    MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think a 1943 Proof Lincoln cent would be neat.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Sonorandesertrat said:

    @astrorat said:
    1816 Capped Bust half dollar ... it drives the compulsive collector crazy that 1816 coins were not struck!

    And make that coin an O.102b ... so there are at least two die marriages and a few die states. Oh yeah ... ! :)

    Large cent collectors do not have this problem. Ours occurred a year earlier.

    I've seen 1815 large cents where someone re-engraved the last digit to create the 5. I guess these were sold to collectors that wanted a complete date set.

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