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1994 misaligned,die cracked, double die. I think unless there's more I missed.

It's hard to get it in the right light to see the obverse die crack but it starts from the bald spot on top of his head and runs around the back of the ear and under the jawline. Has anyone seen one like this?






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  • Moxie15Moxie15 Posts: 318 ✭✭✭

    I am sorry, I do not see anything worth keeping.
    There are several circulation marks and foreign matter. I really see nothing any one would want to pay for.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see no die crack and no doubled die....die cracks would be raised....Cheers, RickO

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Strictly spending money.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    God news: With all that work and all those pictures, it is still worth 1 cent.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,326 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dont see it either😐

  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A few thoughts for you:

    1. I do see what looks like a strike-through across the N in your first photo.
    2. I don't see anything on the images of the obverse portrait.
    3. The reverse images appear to show what is called strike doubling, machine doubling, or mechanical doubling, all of which describe the same effect of doubling that is not on the die, as necessary to be a doubled die, but occurs when the coin is struck and the die "bounces" to create a shadow strike. It is most easily identified by it's shelf like appearance that appears to step down to the secondary strike. It's not at all uncommon on circulating coinage which is struck at extremely high speed and volume and brings no additional value.
    4. In order for a misaligned die to be considered relevant or marketable a rule of thumb is that design elements should be missing or at least partially missing.

    Keep looking...many of us started where you are.

  • yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I look at all my pocket change as well, and cannot remember a significant discovery in a decade.

    You are not learning anything and wasting time with the process you are employing.

    There is an old saying... "Buy the book before the coin."

    Buy the latest two editions of the Cherry Pickers Guide to Rare Die Varieties by Bill Fivaz.

    Then you are free to search the unlimited amount of ebay listings across a broad spectrum of series and years.

    Comes with pictures and notes about each coin. You can also use PCGS images for better resolution.

    That way you are looking for specific pick up points and not wasting time with pocket change.

    Today you pick a coin with an easy pick up point and say... "today is the day"

    Then you search thousands of Buffalo Nickels looking for 3 legged Bison for example.

    Then you remember the pick up point for next time and when you visit a show or a flea market.

    Tommorrow? Walking Liberty Half Dollar engraved initials...

    I have found multiple coins valued from $100 to $2000 using the guides and this approach.

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  • I can see the die crack with my naked eye better than the 2d pic but you guys seriously dont see he only has half an ear?

  • I have so many hi def pics of abraham on my phone now I'm going to have to buy a bigger memory card. Ok 1st I can see with my 3 dimensional eyes that the back top 3rd of his head is raised higher than the rest of his head I could only take a pic of 1 crack at a time it's hard to get them on camera. 2nd it might be just machine doubling but it is a bit further than most of the vibrateing shadows I have seen before and I usually see it over the whole coin not just a few letters. 3rd it's not crud on the coin it is literally where the copper plate disappears and the zinc has tarnished from being exposed to the air. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.





  • Purple_sticky_punchPurple_sticky_punch Posts: 37
    edited February 5, 2020 12:02AM

    I just go though rolls of coins just to pull out wheat backs and copper ones. I just thought it would be cool to show you guys a really messed up coin. But first thing in the morning when I'm skiffing to my boat I'm throwing it overboard and I'm going to make a wish that none of your guys wishes ever come true.

  • Purple_sticky_punchPurple_sticky_punch Posts: 37
    edited February 5, 2020 12:19AM

    I must go though alot more Penny's than you guys do I find die cracks though his head all the time I have a stack of them.

    One of those pic is the exact location you will be able to find it lol.





  • I literally just went threw a random bag of pennies in the last 30 mins and pulled those out but I'm not gonna say what they are cause I know you guys look though your coins with your eyes wide shut anyway. All those are getting thrown in the ocean too.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Getting nasty and vindictive.

    Sounding a lot like a newbie who was banned a few weeks back....

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Try this for the doubling

    http://www.error-ref.com/die-deterioration-doubling-raised/
    Www.doubleddie.com - click on the tab marked worthless doubling

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The six cents you have recently pictured:
    2009 - A very heavily hoarded date. Huge numbers available in mint state.
    1951- Damaged, probably by being run over in a parking lot.
    1934- Unusual date to turn up in change these days but this one has unattractive surfaces. Not a rare or scarce date.
    Lincoln Memorial reverse- Looks to have a scratch. These are very common in high grade as many were hoarded and are now being dumped back into circulation.
    1971-S- High circulated grade and OK for a coin folder set.
    1972- Very common date and frequently encountered in high circulated grades.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • @JBK said:
    Getting nasty and vindictive.

    Sounding a lot like a newbie who was banned a few weeks back....

    Lol I do get like that when I can hide behind a username and i know everyone else is doing the same. In real life I'm actually a pretty easy going guy and half of what i say when I'm just another name in cyberspace I would never say to someone in person without then knowing I was just joking around.

    @Oldhoopster said:
    Try this for the doubling

    http://www.error-ref.com/die-deterioration-doubling-raised/
    Www.doubleddie.com - click on the tab marked worthless doubling

    I did not know that could happen like that I read the whole thing and it does make sense when you think about different alloys not mixing correctly in a massed produced setting.

    @291fifth said:
    The six cents you have recently pictured:
    2009 - A very heavily hoarded date. Huge numbers available in mint state.
    1951- Damaged, probably by being run over in a parking lot.
    1934- Unusual date to turn up in change these days but this one has unattractive surfaces. Not a rare or scarce date.
    Lincoln Memorial reverse- Looks to have a scratch. These are very common in high grade as many were hoarded and are now being dumped back into circulation.
    1971-S- High circulated grade and OK for a coin folder set.
    1972- Very common date and frequently encountered in high circulated grades.

    Lol looks like someone had a thumbtack and was board now that I look harder at the penny. But I do have a real question about the number of "die cracks" are they only worth something if it's a known variety or is it just the size of the line that matters. I honestly "think" I find these all the time is it like the doubling and it's just something that happens after they leave the mint over time or am I finding mint errors?

    I'm still throwing in the ocean though.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,175 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Purple_sticky_punch said:

    @JBK said:
    Getting nasty and vindictive.

    Sounding a lot like a newbie who was banned a few weeks back....

    Lol I do get like that when I can hide behind a username and i know everyone else is doing the same. In real life I'm actually a pretty easy going guy and half of what i say when I'm just another name in cyberspace I would never say to someone in person without then knowing I was just joking around.

    @Oldhoopster said:
    Try this for the doubling

    http://www.error-ref.com/die-deterioration-doubling-raised/
    Www.doubleddie.com - click on the tab marked worthless doubling

    I did not know that could happen like that I read the whole thing and it does make sense when you think about different alloys not mixing correctly in a massed produced setting.

    @291fifth said:
    The six cents you have recently pictured:
    2009 - A very heavily hoarded date. Huge numbers available in mint state.
    1951- Damaged, probably by being run over in a parking lot.
    1934- Unusual date to turn up in change these days but this one has unattractive surfaces. Not a rare or scarce date.
    Lincoln Memorial reverse- Looks to have a scratch. These are very common in high grade as many were hoarded and are now being dumped back into circulation.
    1971-S- High circulated grade and OK for a coin folder set.
    1972- Very common date and frequently encountered in high circulated grades.

    Lol looks like someone had a thumbtack and was board now that I look harder at the penny. But I do have a real question about the number of "die cracks" are they only worth something if it's a known variety or is it just the size of the line that matters. I honestly "think" I find these all the time is it like the doubling and it's just something that happens after they leave the mint over time or am I finding mint errors?

    I'm still throwing in the ocean though.

    Scratches go INTO the coin. A die crack is raised from the coin. Don't confuse damage with die cracks.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jimnight said:
    You have good eyes ... because I don't see anything.

    Nice pics.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Purple_sticky_punch said:
    It's hard to get it in the right light to see the obverse die crack but it starts from the bald spot on top of his head and runs around the back of the ear and under the jawline. Has anyone seen one like this?






    So your saying this has a die crack? Behind the ear and jawline?

    If so, then we have a flood of “die cracks”.
    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1994-1c-rd/3115
    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1994-1c-rd/images/3115
    All above from CoinFacts.

    It’s the design not a die crack.

  • Moxie15Moxie15 Posts: 318 ✭✭✭

    Look if you like these cents then keep them. Some of them are kinda cool, but people will not, as a rule, pay money for the majority of minor errors and varieties unless they are extremely high grade.

    Lincoln cents are riddled with minor die breaks, they are common beyond belief and 99% bring no premium at all.

    Even many of the coins listed in the Cherry Pickers Guide can be very difficult to sell if not certified in MS 64 or higher.

    The whole trick to role searching is to find what you like, not making money. New or unknown double dies or other varieties are virtually worthless until one of the big well known guys authenticate and market them.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Moxie15 said:
    Look if you like these cents then keep them. Some of them are kinda cool, but people will not, as a rule, pay money for the majority of minor errors and varieties unless they are extremely high grade.

    Lincoln cents are riddled with minor die breaks, they are common beyond belief and 99% bring no premium at all.

    Even many of the coins listed in the Cherry Pickers Guide can be very difficult to sell if not certified in MS 64 or higher.

    The whole trick to role searching is to find what you like, not making money. New or unknown double dies or other varieties are virtually worthless until one of the big well known guys authenticate and market them.

    "UNTIL ONE OF THE BIG WELL KNOWN GUYS AUTHENTICATE AND MARKET THEM"

    Absolutely right on the money! Only the "right" people make money on this kind of "stuff". Try asking one of these "right" people what their buy price, rather than their sell price is and see what happens.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BuffaloIronTail said:

    @Jimnight said:
    You have good eyes ... because I don't see anything.

    Nice pics.

    Pete

    :):);)

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a special jar for coins like this.

  • CRH4LIFECRH4LIFE Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭

    Coin star? 😆> @BillDugan1959 said:

    I have a special jar for coins like this.

  • CRH4LIFECRH4LIFE Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭

    🤣🤣🤣

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillDugan1959 said:
    I have a special jar for coins like this.

    Sounds familiar.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Which half of the ear is missing?? I'm still stuck on that pic.

    bob

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a coincidence! I also use Planter's Peanuts jars for storing coins waiting for the trip to the coin machine.

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    What a coincidence! I also use Planter's Peanuts jars for storing coins waiting for the trip to the coin machine.

    When Planter's Peanuts are truly on sale, I stock up.

    Otherwise I buy the store brand. Planter's are very good, but pricey!

  • Ok I know it's not a us coin but I think I understand what a die crack is possibly this one and also has the variety die crack on reverse that's listed but what I think is a die crack on the front I could not find listed.

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