Error experts please help describe this coin
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This is a complicated major error coin. I like to get a full exact description when possible.
I will go ahead a give my description upfront and see if you agree ...
Triple saddle struck on a split planchet after first strike with reverse mirror brockage and uniface strike.
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Note: the photo doesn't really show the bend of the saddle strike.
That is an I-want-it-in-my-collection error.
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How about "Friday Fun at the US Mint After the Boss Has Left "
"1958-?"
The ultra rare mule.
I can buy the split after first strike with the reverse half of the coin (would love to know the weight) remaining in the coining chamber split side up.
I can see the lower second strike in both images being a full brockage from maybe a second or third impression.
On the two upper right images from the second, saddle strike, that sure looks like the bottom edge of the Memorial above the kinda smooshed down "oF." How do you get that on a uniface strike?
TD
Had to stop thinking about it - I was getting a headache.
I do not see the bottom of the Memorial building. To me, it looks like the rim of the split strike getting distorted. Follow it from outside the second saddle strike.
It is a saddle strike with a uniface reverse on a uniface obverse split planchet before strike. Neat coin.
The split planchet is fully struck and has the "brockage-like" appearance because it had another planchet on top of it when it was struck, which allowed for the underlying split planchet to receive a "full strike" on its reverse.
The top planchet was the ejected, as was the split planchet. The split planchet was then saddle struck with a planchet underneath both of the "saddle strikes." Again, no brockage, just the silhouette effect from having a "full strike" on a nearly paper thin planchet.
Jon, I see a mirror brockage on one of the saddle stikes, do you?
I don't, it's just the "silhouette" effect of having an extremely strong strike (split+normal planchet in the striking chamber), which caused the "brockage" like appearance.
The reverse of each of the saddle strike looks different too me.
IMO, one saddle strike looks like a mirror brockage (which I have many examples of ) and the underlying detail from the first strike also shows because of the thinness of the split planchet. For the other saddle strike, the uniface on a blank planchet just shows the detail from the first strike and none from the opposite saddle strike.
OK, I agree with you.
The two off center saddle strikes are embossed strikes, not brockage strikes.
As I said, I would like to know the weight to see just how thin this really is.
It is odd that the rim above "oF" as well as the "oF" itself appear to be pushed INWARD on the original image, but that is because it is OUTWARDS on the second, saddle strike.
Very neat error!
Ok, I see it now and I agree to the "embossed" strike and not a brockage strike.
One of the saddle strike reverses is weaker with the obverse image than the other, that is what thew me off.
Thank You.
I see a very nice error.
I get a headache when I look at that coin.
Pete
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Sorry, not an error expert but personally I'd call it a mess.
Wouldn't believe it's an "error" at all. Looks like employee got bored during his/her break.
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Completely understandable if you think about the minting process.
IMO, no way an employee created midnight piece, just unfounded speculation.
I’ll take a guess at the date: 1964
Oy vey, what happened to that one 😱
Looks like a 1963-64 mint employee manufactured error to me too.
Wow.... That would take some talent to manufacture, actually, I would think it unlikely that it was intentional....I do see how it may have occurred, after reading the final explanation....I could not have deduced that entire sequence myself....Sure did learn something here...Cheers, RickO
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I like the term "embossed strikes", describes it well!
The date range can actually be narrowed down further to 1959-1972 by the size of the designer's initials on the reverse, which were small 1959-1972, large 1973 only, and medium 1974-2008.
I think the piece is legit.
TD
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. All seriousness though a cool piece. > @scubafuel said:
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