1977 one cent
acadien
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Hello Hemispherical,
The 9 of the date appear twice in an overlapping fashion. Should this be a double die.
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acadien
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It looks like a hit on the tail of the 9.
It sure looks it to me!
So no double,,,, I tough I had a hit this time. Back to school again dam... Its troubling. Thanks for responding, appreciate.
When I magnify the picture, it appears to be damage to the nine.... Cheers, RickO
Hello Ricko, Ive look again and I can barely see a hit to the 9. But there is one. Although, I through in better picture.
I don't think it's a hit, but rather machine doubling.
I have a special jar for coins like this.
Yea I know Bill, I agree, all of these coins must be mine. Did you put a tag on the jar with my name. Gee, by then it must be half full or half empty. ah ,ha ha let me know when its full man, A+
If you are so savvy, why do you continually post photos of common pocket change?
On true hub doubled dies, the letters/numbers are the same size/width as on a normal coin (Think about how doubled dies are made and this makes perfect sense. If it doesn’t, you should go back and study the die making process before continuing with your search for doubled dies). Machine doubling occurs when the die moves slightly in the fixture as the coin is struck. This causes the letters/numbers to be slightly thinner than usual. Now look at your pics (Nice pics BTW). Notice the highest part of the numbers are thinner? Bingo, you have your answer. I believe John Wexler discusses this on the Doubleddie.com site under the worthless doubling tab
Another trick is to look and see if both the date and mm are “doubled” if the coin is dated prior to 1989. Remember, before 1989, the mm was added by hand AFTER the die was made and the doubling would already be in place. If you see both doubled, it’s likely that it’s machine doubling (there are rare cases when a true DD also has MD, but you’re getting into extremely low probabilities). Now look at the D on your coin. It appears lightly doubled as well.
Understanding these key characteristics will help identify DDs, eliminate MDs, and keep @BillDugan1959 special jar from getting too full.
One should also remember that 1977 was 43 years ago. This time difference suggests that other searchers would have most likely found a true double die before now. Why not look at the Cherry Pickers books and other resources?
The OP and so many others are approaching this backward.
They are looking at every coin for DDs, instead of finding out which years/MMs have known DDs and then scrutinizing those.
Then, if they think they found one, it needs to match up exactly to other known examples.
So much wasted time....
One supposes that obtaining the source materials require funds, and that reading (and comprehending) the source materials require grey matter... just looking at common pocket change apparently requires neither.
good clear pics, that's good
Thanks for the topo gentleman...
I have been studying the error coins for a year. I had been a quick-witted mechanical engineer for 23 years before my car accident. Special glasses have been prescribed to avoid double vision. I really enjoy collecting coins and I am striving for coin errors and I will not give up because I continue to provide pocket changes. PCGS member for 1 year the slightest respect will be greatly appreciated. Those who are not in the mood for exchanging their expertise, remember your inappropriate comments and pass by and do not forget to empty your pants pocket or satchel before going to bed.
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Those are some great closeup pics!
Nice pics!
Real nice pics!
Pete