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1913 type one buffalo nickel -- guess the grade -- it has been slabbed too!!

BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

Try your hand (or rather your eyes) at grading this mint state buffalo nickel that has been slabbed.


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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool! I'll guess AU 58 <3 Love dem Buffs.

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  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You stated mint state, so I would say 61.

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  • Dug13Dug13 Posts: 264 ✭✭✭

    64

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll guess MS63. But what is going on with that enormous brush on the tail?

  • markelman1125markelman1125 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Au 58

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS60

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS62....and that could be a tad generous... Or, the huge picture might be detrimental to grade guesses. Cheers, RickO

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    61

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well here is picture of the slab and the grade.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow seems somewhat generous imo, slab is sure scratched up too.

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  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 909 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2020 8:56AM

    This coin has seen many dealer transactions and would seem to indicate it is overgraded

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    HMMM....................no comment.

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  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it is overgraded, don't send it for the regrade! :)

    Ken
  • CommencentsCommencents Posts: 349 ✭✭✭

    I would have guessed 63. Sometimes hit free surfaces bump the grade, even with coins with soft strikes.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks to be overgraded to me.

  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is another graded 1913 type one buff, same ms66 grade, also a type one, same grader

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 6, 2020 3:29AM

    And on the above pictured coin I would give it no better than a 64 and that might be a stretch. Too many ugly spots on the chief’s face. The actual slab picture for the above coin follows

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  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 6, 2020 4:20AM

    I know it's easy to say this now but not based on the picture ( except it doesn't look like anything special ) but the fact you even posed this question the surprise has to be much higher than it looks and I was going to say MS66 just because you asked. Mine only got a MS-65. If CAC didn't give it a gold bean I would have to do something about it.

  • Black.DiamondBlack.Diamond Posts: 115 ✭✭✭

    Those are mushy strikes for a 1913 T1.

  • CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First one looks to be far over graded to me... 58 at best but I guess that's why I'm not a grader.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 6, 2020 5:39AM

    @BUFFNIXX said:
    And on the above pictured coin I would give it no better than a 64 and that might be a stretch. Too many ugly spots on the chief’s face. The actual slab picture for the above coin follows

    Question for an advanced (Buys very high-grade nickels) Buffalo nickel collector:

    Ignoring the scratched up cases (the coins would look much better if sent back for "Reholder Service"), I'd like to read your description of the two MS-66 nickels you posted as they would be written up in a major auction.
    After that (if you chose to comment) perhaps you'll let us know what attracted you to these two MS-66 gems. Was it their price, color, etc? If you do that, IMO we can all learn a lot more from this GTG discussion.

    You see, when a member blurts out a grade or shows a TPGS label without stating reasons for the opinion, these discussions become just a personal guessing game where there are few incorrect answers and we take away little additional knowledge about why a particular coin receives a particular grade. Calling an MS-66 coin a 63, 64, 0r 65 teaches me nothing. :)I'm here to learn too!

    @TriPodBuffalo said:
    Those are mushy strikes for a 1913 T1.

    Funny story. My first purchase through the mail from a well-respected dealer was a 1913 5c. Looking back, he sent me a weakly struck, mark-free, frosty gem (possibly because I was young and a first-time customer). I knew nothing about "strike" at the time and returned the coin because - lacking all of its details - I thought it was circulated. I told him to keep my money and use it for a subscription to his future catalogs.

  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 6, 2020 12:01PM

    TO INSIDER2 AND ALL

    Nothing especially attracted to these two coins except that their condition did match what I considered an ms66 to be.
    That being said I am not bad mouthing the grading service(s). Ask you self this question. lf you were putting together, say a date set of buffalo nickel in ms65 -- ms66 -- ms67 condition and a dealer friend of yours sent you the pictures of the coins here what would you say? Would you want to add either of these two coins to your set? Actually the second coin has been on eBay a long long time and no one has bitten on it yet. And
    I mean a really long loong looong loooooong time! Thats because on the second coin IMO of all the obverse spots that the coin has developed over time probably while in the holder. And as to the first coin it does not “reach out and grab you” at first glance. At second glance it appears to be overtraded, plain and simple. In summary I guess we all have to remember that grading is just someones subjective opinion. More comments appreciated.

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