Well that sucks...surprises me you look to politics as a barometer for investing...who's your favorite wrestler?
I don’t have a favorite wrestler, never have, and yes if the wrong people get into office you just watch the gold and silver hit an all time high. Yes it will and you absolutely can use politics as a barometer. What do you use? Wrestling?
Historically, has socialism been good or bad for the gold and silver markets?
Socialism sucks all over the place. This economy is booming and keeping the price of gold and silver down for the most part. Once that changes you’ll see a huge jump in the price with precious metals . That’s a fact.
Yeah she's booming alright.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
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Socialism sucks all over the place. This economy is booming and keeping the price of gold and silver down for the most part. Once that changes you’ll see a huge jump in the price with precious metals . That’s a fact.
I agree....but I think the insurmountable amount of debt that continues to pile up by the second is the elephant in the room. Once that is dealt with, you may see some serious moves in PMs. And this is a bipartisan problem... both sides just continue kicking the tomato can down the road.
Edited to add...@blitzdude posted the real problem
Well that sucks...surprises me you look to politics as a barometer for investing...who's your favorite wrestler?
I don’t have a favorite wrestler, never have, and yes if the wrong people get into office you just watch the gold and silver hit an all time high. Yes it will and you absolutely can use politics as a barometer. What do you use? Wrestling?
Historically, has socialism been good or bad for the gold and silver markets?
Socialism sucks all over the place. This economy is booming and keeping the price of gold and silver down for the most part. Once that changes you’ll see a huge jump in the price with precious metals . That’s a fact.
Yeah she's booming alright.
A leftist complaining about the debt! What a blitzdouche!
Well that sucks...surprises me you look to politics as a barometer for investing...who's your favorite wrestler?
I don’t have a favorite wrestler, never have, and yes if the wrong people get into office you just watch the gold and silver hit an all time high. Yes it will and you absolutely can use politics as a barometer. What do you use? Wrestling?
Historically, has socialism been good or bad for the gold and silver markets?
Wrong question son...right question is has war been good or bad for gold and silver. Does not matter who wins the election now cause Hezbollah gives two shits (and the answer is war/terrorism is good for gold and silver historically)
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Well that sucks...surprises me you look to politics as a barometer for investing...who's your favorite wrestler?
I don’t have a favorite wrestler, never have, and yes if the wrong people get into office you just watch the gold and silver hit an all time high. Yes it will and you absolutely can use politics as a barometer. What do you use? Wrestling?
Historically, has socialism been good or bad for the gold and silver markets?
Wrong question son...right question is has war been good or bad for gold and silver. Does not matter who wins the election now cause Hezbollah gives two shits (and the answer is war/terrorism is good for gold and silver historically)
War is also good for the economy. Hitler ended the Great Depression. When we started mass producing planes, tanks, battle ships, etc we finally had a booming economy.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Well that sucks...surprises me you look to politics as a barometer for investing...who's your favorite wrestler?
I don’t have a favorite wrestler, never have, and yes if the wrong people get into office you just watch the gold and silver hit an all time high. Yes it will and you absolutely can use politics as a barometer. What do you use? Wrestling?
Historically, has socialism been good or bad for the gold and silver markets?
Socialism sucks all over the place. This economy is booming and keeping the price of gold and silver down for the most part. Once that changes you’ll see a huge jump in the price with precious metals . That’s a fact.
Yeah she's booming alright.
A leftist complaining about the debt! What a blitzdouche!
If you believe in labels, I can tell you fables, and lead you to the truth! What a fine product of corporate media you are..so glad I can call myself American, and not Republican, or, Democrat.
Exactly! No "leftist" or "rightist" over here. Patriot perhaps? Semper Fi!!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
If you believe in labels, I can tell you fables, and lead you to the truth! What a fine product of corporate media you are..so glad I can call myself American, and not Republican, or, Democrat.
This is America you can call yourself whatever you want.
Well that sucks...surprises me you look to politics as a barometer for investing...who's your favorite wrestler?
I don’t have a favorite wrestler, never have, and yes if the wrong people get into office you just watch the gold and silver hit an all time high. Yes it will and you absolutely can use politics as a barometer. What do you use? Wrestling?
Historically, has socialism been good or bad for the gold and silver markets?
Wrong question son...right question is has war been good or bad for gold and silver. Does not matter who wins the election now cause Hezbollah gives two shits (and the answer is war/terrorism is good for gold and silver historically)
War is also good for the economy. Hitler ended the Great Depression. When we started mass producing planes, tanks, battle ships, etc we finally had a booming economy.
You are correct but only if the country actually goes on a war footing. Economic boom after Korea, Vietnam, gulf one or two, afg?
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Well that sucks...surprises me you look to politics as a barometer for investing...who's your favorite wrestler?
I don’t have a favorite wrestler, never have, and yes if the wrong people get into office you just watch the gold and silver hit an all time high. Yes it will and you absolutely can use politics as a barometer. What do you use? Wrestling?
Historically, has socialism been good or bad for the gold and silver markets?
Socialism sucks all over the place. This economy is booming and keeping the price of gold and silver down for the most part. Once that changes you’ll see a huge jump in the price with precious metals . That’s a fact.
Yeah she's booming alright.
A leftist complaining about the debt! What a blitzdouche!
If you believe in labels, I can tell you fables, and lead you to the truth! What a fine product of corporate media you are..so glad I can call myself American, and not Republican, or, Democrat.
Exactly! No "leftist" or "rightist" over here. Patriot perhaps? Semper Fi!!
You are ok for a jarhead😁. From Old army dude, DoD and now DHS civ
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Well that sucks...surprises me you look to politics as a barometer for investing...who's your favorite wrestler?
I don’t have a favorite wrestler, never have, and yes if the wrong people get into office you just watch the gold and silver hit an all time high. Yes it will and you absolutely can use politics as a barometer. What do you use? Wrestling?
Historically, has socialism been good or bad for the gold and silver markets?
Socialism sucks all over the place. This economy is booming and keeping the price of gold and silver down for the most part. Once that changes you’ll see a huge jump in the price with precious metals . That’s a fact.
Yeah she's booming alright.
A leftist complaining about the debt! What a blitzdouche!
If you believe in labels, I can tell you fables, and lead you to the truth! What a fine product of corporate media you are..so glad I can call myself American, and not Republican, or, Democrat.
Exactly! No "leftist" or "rightist" over here. Patriot perhaps? Semper Fi!!
You are ok for a jarhead😁. From Old army dude, DoD and now DHS civ
Thank you for your service. Just think if we all had bone spurs the country would be jacked. lol
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
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I don’t have a favorite wrestler, never have, and yes if the wrong people get into office you just watch the gold and silver hit an all time high. Yes it will and you absolutely can use politics as a barometer. What do you use? Wrestling?
Historically, has socialism been good or bad for the gold and silver markets?
Wrong question son...right question is has war been good or bad for gold and silver. Does not matter who wins the election now cause Hezbollah gives two shits (and the answer is war/terrorism is good for gold and silver historically)
Actually, I think the data proves otherwise. Here's the price of gold over the last 200 years. It was actually higher in the 1950s than during WW II. Vietnam didn't budge the price at all.
The big percentage jumps don't correspond to any wars. 2009 did not involve any change in war footing, for example. The end of the Vietnam war in 1974 actually caused a bigger jump in gold price while the 2 years after the Tet Offensive show DECREASES in the price of gold.
I think the fear of war usually causes a surge, but actual warfare does not move it at all.
For your examples the country was not placed on a war footing as was the case in World War Two. I had said the same thing above. However while always the contrarian that you are even you cannot dispute that spikes in gold and silver are fueled by major political events that happen around the world. Put simply, investors tend to flock to precious metals (especially gold) during times of trouble ie. War/terrorism falling squarely in that domain.
History tells us that the price of gold tends to surge during times of war or when there’s major economic events like global financial meltdown circa 2007 ish.
The value of gold increased by 25% in the year after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States. It continued to surge for the next decade as the war on terrorism escalated.
During the Meltdown in 2007 to 2009, the price of gold also increased by about 25%, while share stock markets around the world lost a massive amount of value.
Similar trends happened during crises like the OPEC Oil Embargo in the 1970s. So with the very real possibility that terrorism is again coming to the United States and worst case armed conflict with Iran we will see a retreat to gold which will spike in price. Love the graph Though JM..nice touch
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If you believe in labels, I can tell you fables, and lead you to the truth! What a fine product of corporate media you are..so glad I can call myself American, and not Republican, or, Democrat.
This is America you can call yourself whatever you want.
I'd also remind you, as a resident here; enjoy your hobby! That's why we are here. > @ironmanl63 said:
I want to relax with coin bro's. Screw your politic.
My politic? I suppose there was no politic in the post I responded to. Maybe you just agreed with his politic? Get off your high horse!
Here is some gold to look at.
Nice show. You complained about a "leftist" earlier??? What's your show?....Your funny. Anyways,...always like watching a good show down the runway...ohh, show a little more tail..eeh> @ironmanl63 said:
I want to relax with coin bro's. Screw your politic.
My politic? I suppose there was no politic in the post I responded to. Maybe you just agreed with his politic? Get off your high horse!
Here is some gold to look at.
I like it. Congrats! Even though you called me a lefty blitzduche. By the way I am left handed, I was never into labels but maybe you called me right. Love the coin seriously.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
I want to relax with coin bro's. Screw your politic.
My politic? I suppose there was no politic in the post I responded to. Maybe you just agreed with his politic? Get off your high horse!
Here is some gold to look at.
I like it. Congrats! Even though you called me a lefty blitzduche. By the way I am left handed, I was never into labels but maybe you called me right. Love the coin seriously.
I apologize for the name calling! A moment of weakness.
Well that sucks...surprises me you look to politics as a barometer for investing...who's your favorite wrestler?
I don’t have a favorite wrestler, never have, and yes if the wrong people get into office you just watch the gold and silver hit an all time high. Yes it will and you absolutely can use politics as a barometer. What do you use? Wrestling?
Both parties have been putting the wrong people in office for decades, and there is no white knight in Washington D.C. that is going to save one side; from the others boogeyman. The whole left vs. right divide is unfortunate theater; generating fear, animosity, and causing many people to make decisions based on emotion which is bad if you're investing: unless you're an experienced day trader on the NYSE trading on Trump tweets.
I ask if you had a favorite wrestler because the theatrical smack talk you put out there, "Loony Left," made me wonder...but honestly; did you know our President had a stint in wrestling? Guess what, you DO have a favorite wrestler, and didn't know it!
This!
I fail to see any major difference between Bush, Obama, and Trump. Subtle regulatory differences. Lip services to their specific partisan concerns. Same basic policies overall.
Thank god. I share this exact view somehow that makes me a leftist liberal.
PS: Which one or ones are fake?
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Well that sucks...surprises me you look to politics as a barometer for investing...who's your favorite wrestler?
I don’t have a favorite wrestler, never have, and yes if the wrong people get into office you just watch the gold and silver hit an all time high. Yes it will and you absolutely can use politics as a barometer. What do you use? Wrestling?
Both parties have been putting the wrong people in office for decades, and there is no white knight in Washington D.C. that is going to save one side; from the others boogeyman. The whole left vs. right divide is unfortunate theater; generating fear, animosity, and causing many people to make decisions based on emotion which is bad if you're investing: unless you're an experienced day trader on the NYSE trading on Trump tweets.
I ask if you had a favorite wrestler because the theatrical smack talk you put out there, "Loony Left," made me wonder...but honestly; did you know our President had a stint in wrestling? Guess what, you DO have a favorite wrestler, and didn't know it!
This!
I fail to see any major difference between Bush, Obama, and Trump. Subtle regulatory differences. Lip services to their specific partisan concerns. Same basic policies overall.
C'mon, man, get real! This is not a forum for political debate, but the above assertion is absurd.
I suggest we all leave this alone. I’ll promise you when the FUN show is over and the Mods come back heads will roll. I posted a cartoon painted silver eagle because I think it’s funny and wanted to share the humor. I didn’t want this. So please if we don’t let this go there’ll be trouble and I can’t use anymore of that here. I love it here and also appreciate you guys, and ladies.
Be happy and let live. You'll have just as much luck changing someone’s religion as you will their political beliefs.
Let’s see some gold😊
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
Well that sucks...surprises me you look to politics as a barometer for investing...who's your favorite wrestler?
I don’t have a favorite wrestler, never have, and yes if the wrong people get into office you just watch the gold and silver hit an all time high. Yes it will and you absolutely can use politics as a barometer. What do you use? Wrestling?
Both parties have been putting the wrong people in office for decades, and there is no white knight in Washington D.C. that is going to save one side; from the others boogeyman. The whole left vs. right divide is unfortunate theater; generating fear, animosity, and causing many people to make decisions based on emotion which is bad if you're investing: unless you're an experienced day trader on the NYSE trading on Trump tweets.
I ask if you had a favorite wrestler because the theatrical smack talk you put out there, "Loony Left," made me
Not at all if you look at the details.
The similarities are far greater than the differences.
@Mgarmy said:
For your examples the country was not placed on a war footing as was the case in World War Two. I had said the same thing above. However while always the contrarian that you are even you cannot dispute that spikes in gold and silver are fueled by major political events that happen around the world. Put simply, investors tend to flock to precious metals (especially gold) during times of trouble ie. War/terrorism falling squarely in that domain.
History tells us that the price of gold tends to surge during times of war or when there’s major economic events like global financial meltdown circa 2007 ish.
The value of gold increased by 25% in the year after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States. It continued to surge for the next decade as the war on terrorism escalated.
During the Meltdown in 2007 to 2009, the price of gold also increased by about 25%, while share stock markets around the world lost a massive amount of value.
Similar trends happened during crises like the OPEC Oil Embargo in the 1970s. So with the very real possibility that terrorism is again coming to the United States and worst case armed conflict with Iran we will see a retreat to gold which will spike in price. Love the graph Though JM..nice touch
Again, look at the graph. Fear of upheaval causes moves, actual wars do not seem to move the needle very much at all in the modern period. The 2001 "war on terror" may be the exception, if you assume that the move is due to that. However, the economic upheaval of 2009 caused much bigger moves and the 2001 to 2008 move up might just be the secular trend in gold not a direct result of any economic or military upheaval.
There is NO upward move from the World War - pretty big war, that. There is an upward move AFTER WW II ended. Cold war? Maybe. Except gold drops through the Korean War and doesn't spike up during the 1960s escalations with Russia. There is a minor move late in the Vietnam War, except an actual drop during the post-Tet escalation. There is an upward move AFTER VIETNAM ended.
Some people do tend to buy gold during times of fear, including fear of wars. But I think the graph really shows the price action of actual wars to be more mythological than anything else.
@crazyhounddog said:
I suggest we all leave this alone. I’ll promise you when the FUN show is over and the Mods come back heads will roll. I posted a cartoon painted silver eagle because I think it’s funny and wanted to share the humor. I didn’t want this. So please if we don’t let this go there’ll be trouble and I can’t use anymore of that here. I love it here and also appreciate you guys, and ladies.
Be happy and let live. You'll have just as much luck changing someone’s religion as you will their political beliefs.
Let’s see some gold😊
Agreed. None of my comments were coin related, and not worth keeping so I'll save mods time. Thanks for the reminder @crazyhounddog , and sorry for the insults. You too @ironmanl63 , my apologies for offending you. In the future I'll keep it coin related. This is a public forum.
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Yeah she's booming alright.
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@crazyhounddog said
I agree....but I think the insurmountable amount of debt that continues to pile up by the second is the elephant in the room. Once that is dealt with, you may see some serious moves in PMs. And this is a bipartisan problem... both sides just continue kicking the tomato can down the road.
Edited to add...@blitzdude posted the real problem
MY GOLD TYPE SET https://pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/complete-type-sets/gold-type-set-12-piece-circulation-strikes-1839-1933/publishedset/321940
A leftist complaining about the debt! What a blitzdouche!
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Wrong question son...right question is has war been good or bad for gold and silver. Does not matter who wins the election now cause Hezbollah gives two shits (and the answer is war/terrorism is good for gold and silver historically)
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War is also good for the economy. Hitler ended the Great Depression. When we started mass producing planes, tanks, battle ships, etc we finally had a booming economy.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Exactly! No "leftist" or "rightist" over here. Patriot perhaps? Semper Fi!!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
This is America you can call yourself whatever you want.
You are correct but only if the country actually goes on a war footing. Economic boom after Korea, Vietnam, gulf one or two, afg?
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Thank you for your service.
You are ok for a jarhead😁. From Old army dude, DoD and now DHS civ
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Your welcome don't mention it. No bone spurs or communism up over here!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Thank you for your service. Just think if we all had bone spurs the country would be jacked. lol
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BOOMIN!™
And ty for yours. We are the real 1% brother
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My politic? I suppose there was no politic in the post I responded to. Maybe you just agreed with his politic? Get off your high horse!
Here is some gold to look at.
This!
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Actually, I think the data proves otherwise. Here's the price of gold over the last 200 years. It was actually higher in the 1950s than during WW II. Vietnam didn't budge the price at all.
https://onlygold.com/gold-prices/historical-gold-prices/
The big percentage jumps don't correspond to any wars. 2009 did not involve any change in war footing, for example. The end of the Vietnam war in 1974 actually caused a bigger jump in gold price while the 2 years after the Tet Offensive show DECREASES in the price of gold.
I think the fear of war usually causes a surge, but actual warfare does not move it at all.
If you prefer a graph:
For your examples the country was not placed on a war footing as was the case in World War Two. I had said the same thing above. However while always the contrarian that you are even you cannot dispute that spikes in gold and silver are fueled by major political events that happen around the world. Put simply, investors tend to flock to precious metals (especially gold) during times of trouble ie. War/terrorism falling squarely in that domain.
History tells us that the price of gold tends to surge during times of war or when there’s major economic events like global financial meltdown circa 2007 ish.
The value of gold increased by 25% in the year after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States. It continued to surge for the next decade as the war on terrorism escalated.
During the Meltdown in 2007 to 2009, the price of gold also increased by about 25%, while share stock markets around the world lost a massive amount of value.
Similar trends happened during crises like the OPEC Oil Embargo in the 1970s. So with the very real possibility that terrorism is again coming to the United States and worst case armed conflict with Iran we will see a retreat to gold which will spike in price. Love the graph Though JM..nice touch
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You have completely lost me. Did you like the coin? Maybe you want to guess the grade.
I like it. Congrats! Even though you called me a lefty blitzduche. By the way I am left handed, I was never into labels but maybe you called me right. Love the coin seriously.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
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I apologize for the name calling! A moment of weakness.
Before I saw this thread, I noticed gold rising. The American Liberty 2019 High Relief Gold Coin has gone up $100 and is now $1940.00
Thank god. I share this exact view somehow that makes me a leftist liberal.
PS: Which one or ones are fake?
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
C'mon, man, get real! This is not a forum for political debate, but the above assertion is absurd.
Sorry for terrible pictures, $20 china tariff computer magnifier. Trying to learn it.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
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I suggest we all leave this alone. I’ll promise you when the FUN show is over and the Mods come back heads will roll. I posted a cartoon painted silver eagle because I think it’s funny and wanted to share the humor. I didn’t want this. So please if we don’t let this go there’ll be trouble and I can’t use anymore of that here. I love it here and also appreciate you guys, and ladies.
Be happy and let live. You'll have just as much luck changing someone’s religion as you will their political beliefs.
Let’s see some gold😊
Not at all if you look at the details.
The similarities are far greater than the differences.
Again, look at the graph. Fear of upheaval causes moves, actual wars do not seem to move the needle very much at all in the modern period. The 2001 "war on terror" may be the exception, if you assume that the move is due to that. However, the economic upheaval of 2009 caused much bigger moves and the 2001 to 2008 move up might just be the secular trend in gold not a direct result of any economic or military upheaval.
There is NO upward move from the World War - pretty big war, that. There is an upward move AFTER WW II ended. Cold war? Maybe. Except gold drops through the Korean War and doesn't spike up during the 1960s escalations with Russia. There is a minor move late in the Vietnam War, except an actual drop during the post-Tet escalation. There is an upward move AFTER VIETNAM ended.
Some people do tend to buy gold during times of fear, including fear of wars. But I think the graph really shows the price action of actual wars to be more mythological than anything else.
Agreed. None of my comments were coin related, and not worth keeping so I'll save mods time. Thanks for the reminder @crazyhounddog , and sorry for the insults. You too @ironmanl63 , my apologies for offending you. In the future I'll keep it coin related. This is a public forum.
Lots of countries are getting into the gold bullion coin business.
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