1802 Dollar - out of my element
scotty1419
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Dont usually dabble in this area - would be curious on authenticity and reasonable mkt value?
Appreciate your thoughts!
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The level of detail on the reverse is way beyond that if the obverse. That leads me to think it’s a fake.
Be careful.
Those are some poor images to give you any real insight. Can you take the coin off the armrest of the chair or couch, out of the plastic, use some good lighting and get it in focus?
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There's a die crack through the first S of STATES that should tell you if it could be real. Exercise caution with these raw.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
Here’s the issues as I see them!
The reverse is not correct for an 1802$; it is actually a match for 1799 B-10, but matches a known counterfeit 1801 including several “circulation” marks (the 1801 reverse has an added die break as imaged here).
The 1st image is of the OP one compared to the fake 1801$:
2nd is of a counterfeit 1799$ reverse with the same marks!
Best, Jack.
Good catch. At this point I am very suspicious of any raw coin of this value.
LIBERTY SEATED DIMES WITH MAJOR VARIETIES CIRCULATION STRIKES (1837-1891) digital album
Raw ... enough said. Pass.
Appreciate all the feedback and especially the excellent analysis by burfle23!
I'm confused by this one.
Obverse looks OK, but the reverse tells me 'fake'.
Best to stay away.
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Good information/analysis.... Thanks @burfle23.... Good pictures, really helps to understand the points. Cheers, RickO
Just had a couple more of this "family" show up on the internet, an 1800 and 1801 with common reverses:
The 1801 also has the "flattened 1" feature seen on some of the 1802 fakes as an added bonus!
I know nothing about this coin but man the guys commenting on this coin are awesome. I now know what to look for if I ever come across one of these. This place has a combined 1000's of years of experience.
Nice job, thanks.
Thanks again for all of the responses and the OP's post.