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Better date $20 Lib. how would you grade?

logger7logger7 Posts: 8,094 ✭✭✭✭✭


This is an inaugural year type iI $20 from San Francisco. How would you grade this coin?

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Problem grade XF-40. It is probably in a 45 slab.

    PS When I started collecting this was a VF. Back then, VF coins had mint luster.

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    CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45

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    ElectricityElectricity Posts: 311 ✭✭✭

    Guessing XF45-AU50, Lobotomy

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45-50. Dinged up, but not too much wear.

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    BloodManBloodMan Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll say PCGS called it 50, but not my taste. This date often comes very banged up unlike some of the later type 2 dates and type 3s.

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Straight graded 45.

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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    40

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF45. I've seen baggier examples of this type in straight graded 45 slabs.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It might be the images, but I get the sense that the coin has been lightly cleaned or altered. Either way, details-wise, I’d give it an AU50.

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    ilmcoinsilmcoins Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭

    45 camp

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    40

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU50, congrats!

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF45.....could go 50 in hand.... Cheers, RickO

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    XF45.....could go 50 in hand.... Cheers, RickO

    Good point. This coin probably has a lot more luster than what's showing up in the pics.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    It might be the images, but I get the sense that the coin has been lightly cleaned or altered. Either way, details-wise, I’d give it an AU50.

    Agree, definitely has that look in the obverse fields near the stars.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    40-45

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    LJenkins11LJenkins11 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45 to 50 but pictures can mislead. It looks straight grade to me.

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,795 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based solely on the images provided, I am unable to give this coin a straight grade.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Flackthat said:
    PCGS Slab- XF Details
    NGC Slab-XF45
    ANACS Slab- AU50

    Do you use the bottom service? In my limited experience,the results you posted don't agree with what I might have suggested.

    This would have been a great discussion. Perhaps the OP could start another with a raw coin so we could GTG it would receive at EACH of those three TPGS's. I think the results would be much closer in agreement - especially with regard to problems. No, forget what I sad about "problems." There are definite differences between those three services.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @ricko said:
    XF45.....could go 50 in hand.... Cheers, RickO

    Good point. This coin probably has a lot more luster than what's showing up in the pics.

    The coin is loaded with luster. It is just not original Mint luster.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Flackthat said:
    @Insider2 I do not use the bottom service. I just based my opinion off of past experiences. Now reading the question again, he didn’t ask for GTG. He asked what would we grade it as.
    I would grade it XF45.

    I Notice that most including you often do one, the other, or both (as I do).

    @Flackthat said:
    PCGS Slab- XF Details
    NGC Slab-XF45
    ANACS Slab- AU50

    @Flackthat said:

    I would grade it XF45.

    I like your personal grade as a MAXIMUM. All the best to you in the New Year! :)

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    I would grade this a 46.13

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    jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU Details

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    metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭✭✭

    EF40 IMHO

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1987WheatCent said:
    I would grade this a 46.13

    IMHO, that's about 6.11 too high. :p

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks polished to me.

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