Let's not beat around the Bush.
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Tell me what you really think of a continuum for the small dollars ? I'm really glad.
Photo (screenshot) courtesy of CoinWorld digital publication.
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I don't disagree. He was a World War II hero, served this Country long and well.
They should just open it up to all future deceased presidents (unless the new law already provides for that).
Absolutely agree. No matter how one may have voted or feel. He earned it in a number of ways.
Not a good idea to reopen a closed series. A commemorative coin or set would be more appropriate. If this coin (and accompanying First Spouse) is issued, expect the same thing to happen again whenever another former President passes away. So the series will never be truly closed.
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It's o.k. with me. But......what is up with the designers of the coins at the mint? A simple portrait of the man would be just fine. Why clutter it up with the White House in the background? What a bunch of dopes....just because your COMPUTER says you can that doesn't mean you should.
My take on U.S. Mint products? So, so much CLUTTER in the designs!
@Hydrant One assumes that the Mint will continue to use the current Presidential Dollar 'template' and that Coin World simply chose from one of the few coin/medal representations that it could find quickly.
Newspapers are always in a big rush rush rush and near anarchy until an issue is finally put-to-bed.
The template isn't great, but the template makes it obvious that the new coin is a continuation of the same series.
I could see new coins being issued for the living presidents at the time the series started, if for no other reason because a lot of albums have holes for them. That said, the series would get really clunky if new coins got issues every time a future former president dies. So I could see an argument for possibly making a coin for W Bush, Obama, and maybe Trump, but no others beyond them. No problem with Clinton and prior when eligible.
Edit: fixed typo
I will share my opinion, from the perspective of not liking any new designs for many years, it is a great looking coin.
The bust? is a very dignified expression and impressively executed with the angle and pose. The background is busy yet attractive and reminds me of the wiener cathedral medals with the angles and detail. For what it is I like it a lot. If it was an actual dollar coin I would like a business strike and proof example, more preferably as a Morgan sized silver dollar to enjoy the details and Not a presidential dollar size. Perhaps they might squeeze into the design; “Read my lips no new taxes”
But seriously it looks like an excellent coin/medal.
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Just make 200 of them so the mint director can tell us how overloaded the order desk was.
I don't really have any issue with it but I also agree that it would be more appropriate for a commemorative issue.
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No living Presidents! Smacks of Monarchy! If George Washington had the good sense to refuse being portrayed on the current coinage, so should his successors!
Follow the example of the U.S. Post Office, if nothing else. After one year, they issue a first class postage stamp for the decedent. Brainless.
When did a serious nation ever design its circulating coinage for the silly restraints of the collector coin holder industry?
It would be up in the air for me.
I think this was always the intention. It really isn't a closed series. If it were up to me it would've been closed before it started.
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I am also a critic of US mint designs for the same reasons.
What is shown above is the presidential medal that all presidents get. So I'll assume that the coin will be far different from the medal.
I'm in if the design is decent.
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There aren’t many living former presidents. Why not?
Sorry. I didn’t mean to suggest living presidents should be on coins while they’re alive. I meant you could make an argument for the people I mentioned when they die, but not future presidents that haven’t been elected yet.
For what it’s worth, I’ve been in the record since 2005 when I had an op-Ed in Coin World saying this series was a bad idea. I still think it’s a bad series, but hey, I’ll at least humor the idea of finding a way to end it cleanly.
Because they died?
I would vote for every president to be on the coin, once they pass.
I don't see a reason to stop the program. They could change the laws to make that happen.
@airplanenut I kinda understood what you were saying, but took the opportunity for a bit of hyperbole. This country should be able to make the Presidential dollar in the current format for some time to come.
Make 75 million of them and release them directly to the banks (via the FRB) again.
But I doubt that this will happen.
True. Just hope there doesn't need to be a legislative bill for every one of our leaders who passes on. And other than that, it's been fun assembling the set.
That medal has a classic look to it.
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We may have the most alive former presidents in history right now. (I didnt bother to look that up, just going on a hunch)
That is a nice looking medal.... I do not think it would be the design for the dollar though....Most have been rather bland and only a passing resemblance to the person....Cheers, RickO
If you want them to circulate, mix in a few hundred thousand with a "W" mint mark.
This will also allow the public to experience the joy of squinting at the edge of each coin.
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It is only fair that former Presidents get a coin after their deaths. However, I will make an exception that living ex-Presidents get a coin and a big party on their 100th birthday!
I would prefer the Mint let this series lie. If you add 'one more' president, then there will never by any end. Since these do not circulate, the series should be left closed as-is, IMO.
As a related mini-rant, the Mint should never have made this series, or anything other than the Sacagawea dollar, which was just fine by itself. We could actually use a circulating $1 coin, for commerce (the actual point of minting coins), and this goal meant that we needed a CONSISTENT design so that the public would learn to recognize it. Changing the design over and over did NOT actually 'create interest', what it ACTUALLY did was to make it impossible for the public to become familiar with the design, and as a result this denomination is now a complete failure. There should NEVER have been ANY presidential dollars, so we should not add any new ones.
If I was a president, having this little piece of hardware named for me would be a far greater honor. This is CVN77, the USS George H. W. Bush, last of the Nimitz class carriers. She’s based in Norfolk. Interesting (to me) that she was commissioned many years ahead of the late presidents passing.
During the “raising of the mast” or setting the island superstructure into place, the ship’s namesake placed his naval aviator wings under the structure.
When it comes to the coin, I don’t much care either way.
Most were older when they took office.
Jimmy Carter may be the first to hit that milestone.
They should make 7500 of them in gold with an enhanced reverse proof finish to create the next "flippable."
Theres footage of him getting rescued as well
...and still eligible for a second term.
There is some space to include AirForce One flying overhead in the sky and maybe a Privy mark could be included somewhere too.
The historic photo of 5 presidents was Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, and incumbent Bush.
Then Clinton was elected and there were five ex-presudents until Nixon passed away.
Right now we have Carter, GW Bush, Clinton, Obama, and Trump.
So we currently stand have 4 ex-presidents and the current president.
Yeah I looked afterward. It was until last year when GHWB passed so during this presidency.
I remember as a boy seeing Hoover and Truman in the news occasionally, probably on their birthdays.