@Coinstartled said:
Plenty of GOAT threads each year. They are all over the place and generally fun to participate in, but one issue keeps coming up makes any real debate evasive. Perhaps we can come to an agreement by year end.
Does the GOAT in a given sport or position have to be the best if time machined to 2019, or the best in the era in which they played?
Swimmer Mark Spitz has GOAT potential if his times were limited to the 1970's, but in his forties, he beat those record times but was not the best as the younger competitors, eclipsed his improved times.
I vote for best in their era, of course there is still enough controversy regarding training, PEDS and segregated leagues, to name a few.
There's no way to figure it in team sports. Swimming or anything against the clock is a different story.
Unfortunately the time machine doesn't work because you cant just transport them into the modern era without letting them benefit from the modern diet and training techniques.
I will stick to my opinion that in almost every case, you wont get any agreement on a GOAT.
@DIMEMAN said:
I say you can judge between era's and be accurate if you don't let your personal likes and dislikes get in the way like some folks here.
YOU would NEVER be guilty of that sir!!! ;-)
Joe, I think I am objective. If I was a homie on this I would say Aikman is the GOAT. But I look at everything and I have to agree that Brady is the GOAT at QB. Anybody that does not put Brady as the GOAT just doesn't get it.
I would put Aikman in the top 10. Not sure where, but no need to really do that.
How about Emmitt?
What about Emmitt.......except that he is the GOAT RB.
No homerism there!
Nope.....He IS the leading career rusher of all time.
So if Frank Gore somehow managed to play long enough for him to pass Smith on the all time leaders list, you would concede Gore was the GOAT?
It COULD happen.
If Gore passed him on yards and TD's and Rings...…….sure.
Yards should be enough if you are not a homer. Rings shouldn't even be brought up.
Like I said in another thread........you can't just ignore Rings. They are not everything....but are part of it.
This is soooo late in terms of posting... I did not drop names as to those who I have met and have seen live that include Cab Calloway, Count Basie, Sarah Vaughn, Lionel Hampton and Harry James among others (limited to jazz I might add).
But the real point worthy of making that Coinstarted did is that he referenced the Nicholas Brothers... Okay, I would have cited their routine in Stormy Weather (1943) which is just beyond belief... And needs to be seen to be appreciated. These guys were in a class by themselves. And while I might be close to calling them the GOAT, I just am not able to knowing what I know in terms of what others did and may not have had the audience worthy of their talent.
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Like I said in another thread........you can't just ignore Rings. They are not everything....but are part of it.
Five golden rings.
This is soooo late in terms of posting... I did not drop names as to those who I have met and have seen live that include Cab Calloway, Count Basie, Sarah Vaughn, Lionel Hampton and Harry James among others (limited to jazz I might add).
But the real point worthy of making that Coinstarted did is that he referenced the Nicholas Brothers... Okay, I would have cited their routine in Stormy Weather (1943) which is just beyond belief... And needs to be seen to be appreciated. These guys were in a class by themselves. And while I might be close to calling them the GOAT, I just am not able to knowing what I know in terms of what others did and may not have had the audience worthy of their talent.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.